Let's talk defense

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 09-18-2006, 04:02 PM

The sad thing about Clark is that no one could remember his solid play. He wasn't bad, and fit in really well with the team and the D. In my opinion him and smoot represented the attitude of that D along with Washington...nasty, and overachieving. What everyone remembered instead is him getting blown away by LT. It was a shame we let him go, but on the other hand, we returned every other starter...so I really can't say what's up, except they suck

SmootSmack · 09-18-2006, 04:05 PM

Where is The Ade? Seriously, where's he been? I'd like to see Demetric get more playing time, maybe he could provide a spark

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-18-2006, 04:07 PM

I was wondering that as well. The Ade is really WORSE than Wright or Rumph in coverage?

JET · 09-18-2006, 04:08 PM

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hurrykaine · 09-18-2006, 04:14 PM

The D has lost its mystique. If we can't sack the most immobile QBs (Johnson and Bledsoe), then its worrisome.

If David Carr shreds our D (Springs playing or not), then I'm hugely worried.

I understand losing a guy like Prioleau (while he's no game changer) was huge since he knows the scheme so well. Bringing in Archuletta (@ $10 million in guaranteed money) for Ryan Clark was a huge mistake. Hate to say it, but even Walt Harris would have been better than the no good Kenny Wright.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-18-2006, 04:15 PM

Stupid hindsight. Always being 20/20.

Beemnseven · 09-18-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

The D has lost its mystique. If we can't sack the most immobile QBs (Johnson and Bledsoe), then its worrisome.

If David Carr shreds our D (Springs playing or not), then I'm hugely worried.

I understand losing a guy like Prioleau (while he's no game changer) was huge since he knows the scheme so well. Bringing in Archuletta (@ $10 million in guaranteed money) for Ryan Clark was a huge mistake. Hate to say it, but even Walt Harris would have been better than the no good Kenny Wright.

Exactly! Didn't we hear all week long how Dallas' offensive line wasn't as good as Minnesota's ? And that the pressure on the statue-like Bledsoe would be a different story?

And to think Wright was a sixteen game starter for Jacksonville last year.

At some point you'd think Snyderatto would get a clue: Teams don't let go of players they want to keep. There's a reason why the Jags didn't fight to keep him. And we're seeing the same thing with Andre Carter.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-18-2006, 04:41 PM

Yes, Dallas's offensive line isn't that bad honestly. Jacksonville hardly got pressure.

Southpaw · 09-18-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

At some point you'd think Snyderatto would get a clue: Teams don't let go of players they want to keep. There's a reason why the Jags didn't fight to keep him. And we're seeing the same thing with Andre Carter.

Snyderatto can't comprehend this, because it doesn't think that way. I.E. Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce, Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, and eventually Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Clinton Portis, Santanna Moss, and Sean Taylor.

CrazyCanuck · 09-18-2006, 04:46 PM

I agree with pretty much everything you guys said.

OUR DEFENSE SUCKS.

Our line is average at best and our secondary is brutal. Wow the Prioleau injury really hurt us (and Springs obviously). However injuries happen all the time. And it's not like Springs is a spring chicken (sorry) who has never been hurt before.

I just can't believe how thin this team is. I mean Rumph, Wright, Fox, Golston...who the hell are these guys? And like Tafkas said - where the hell is the Ade????? Seriously where is he?????? I thought the guy was actually becoming a pretty good player last year and now he doesn't even see the field with this bunch of stiffs out there? Archuleta definitely looks like a bust, wish we had Clark and some money back. And I hate to pick on Taylor since he's our only decent guy back there but I'm really not impressed with his "ball hawk" skills. The guy is a great hitter and puts fear in the opposing offense, but when it comes to coverage (especially deep) he always seems out of place and late on the play. That deep ball in the Dallas game was definitely his fault from what I could see.

We can talk about the offense, Saunders, Brunell as much as we want but right now I think the defense is definitely our biggest problem.

Beemnseven · 09-18-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yes, Dallas's offensive line isn't that bad honestly. Jacksonville hardly got pressure.

Well, they're better. The Jags still got two sacks.

Doesn't say much for our line though, the way many people were talking about them.

VTSkins897 · 09-18-2006, 06:09 PM

it's depressing. i'm gonna stay away from the news until sunday.

4skins23 · 09-18-2006, 10:56 PM

Why is it I just got accused of being a Cowgirls fan when I started saying our Defense is Terrible -compared to last year but you guys are talking all bout the same point I was trying to make?

Our Offense has problems,but our Defense has /and is a bigger problem right now. Defense wins Championships. If ours keeps playing this way we won't be there. Overall I'd say we have lots of problems to address. Offense and Defense. We have loads of talent, but we don't seem to be playing as a team...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-18-2006, 11:14 PM

Our defense will rebound. I'm not terribly worried about the defense. It's looked bad, very bad, but I simply do not believe that GW will be unable to turn things around. GW deserves the benefit of the doubt.

gibbsisgod · 09-18-2006, 11:17 PM

If we get a lead then maybe GW could take some more chances. He cant be as aggressive because he knows if it backfires our O cant score to make up for it.

09-18-2006, 04:02 PM	#46
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 39 Posts: 896	Re: Let's talk defense The sad thing about Clark is that no one could remember his solid play. He wasn't bad, and fit in really well with the team and the D. In my opinion him and smoot represented the attitude of that D along with Washington...nasty, and overachieving. What everyone remembered instead is him getting blown away by LT. It was a shame we let him go, but on the other hand, we returned every other starter...so I really can't say what's up, except they suck

09-18-2006, 04:05 PM	#47
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Let's talk defense Where is The Ade? Seriously, where's he been? I'd like to see Demetric get more playing time, maybe he could provide a spark __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-18-2006, 04:07 PM	#48
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Let's talk defense I was wondering that as well. The Ade is really WORSE than Wright or Rumph in coverage? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-18-2006, 04:14 PM	#50
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Let's talk defense The D has lost its mystique. If we can't sack the most immobile QBs (Johnson and Bledsoe), then its worrisome. If David Carr shreds our D (Springs playing or not), then I'm hugely worried. I understand losing a guy like Prioleau (while he's no game changer) was huge since he knows the scheme so well. Bringing in Archuletta (@ $10 million in guaranteed money) for Ryan Clark was a huge mistake. Hate to say it, but even Walt Harris would have been better than the no good Kenny Wright.

09-18-2006, 04:15 PM	#51
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Let's talk defense Stupid hindsight. Always being 20/20. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-18-2006, 04:41 PM	#53
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Let's talk defense Yes, Dallas's offensive line isn't that bad honestly. Jacksonville hardly got pressure. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-18-2006, 04:46 PM	#55
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Let's talk defense I agree with pretty much everything you guys said. OUR DEFENSE SUCKS. Our line is average at best and our secondary is brutal. Wow the Prioleau injury really hurt us (and Springs obviously). However injuries happen all the time. And it's not like Springs is a spring chicken (sorry) who has never been hurt before. I just can't believe how thin this team is. I mean Rumph, Wright, Fox, Golston...who the hell are these guys? And like Tafkas said - where the hell is the Ade????? Seriously where is he?????? I thought the guy was actually becoming a pretty good player last year and now he doesn't even see the field with this bunch of stiffs out there? Archuleta definitely looks like a bust, wish we had Clark and some money back. And I hate to pick on Taylor since he's our only decent guy back there but I'm really not impressed with his "ball hawk" skills. The guy is a great hitter and puts fear in the opposing offense, but when it comes to coverage (especially deep) he always seems out of place and late on the play. That deep ball in the Dallas game was definitely his fault from what I could see. We can talk about the offense, Saunders, Brunell as much as we want but right now I think the defense is definitely our biggest problem.

09-18-2006, 06:09 PM	#57
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: Let's talk defense it's depressing. i'm gonna stay away from the news until sunday.

09-18-2006, 10:56 PM	#58
4skins23 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern Illinois Age: 51 Posts: 5	Re: Let's talk defense Why is it I just got accused of being a Cowgirls fan when I started saying our Defense is Terrible -compared to last year but you guys are talking all bout the same point I was trying to make? Our Offense has problems,but our Defense has /and is a bigger problem right now. Defense wins Championships. If ours keeps playing this way we won't be there. Overall I'd say we have lots of problems to address. Offense and Defense. We have loads of talent, but we don't seem to be playing as a team...

09-18-2006, 11:14 PM	#59
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Let's talk defense Our defense will rebound. I'm not terribly worried about the defense. It's looked bad, very bad, but I simply do not believe that GW will be unable to turn things around. GW deserves the benefit of the doubt.

09-18-2006, 11:17 PM	#60
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 45 Posts: 3,503	Re: Let's talk defense If we get a lead then maybe GW could take some more chances. He cant be as aggressive because he knows if it backfires our O cant score to make up for it.

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