Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made?

offiss · 10-18-2006, 05:33 PM

Sometimes you have to go backward in order to go forward, being Brunell has us on a backward freefall I don't see the problem with starting a second year QB. Kind of funny but the Cardinals who were picked by many to be better than us had no problem throwing in the towel on the season to start a rookie QB, only if JC starts will the world come crashing down. Give me a break with Brunell already he was washed up before he arrived in DC and has only continued to decline!

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-18-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Sometimes you have to go backward in order to go forward, being Brunell has us on a backward freefall I don't see the problem with starting a second year QB. Kind of funny but the Cardinals who were picked by many to be better than us had no problem throwing in the towel on the season to start a rookie QB, only if JC starts will the world come crashing down. Give me a break with Brunell already he was washed up before he arrived in DC and has only continued to decline!

agreed, not to say that JC would come out and be a fucking Matt Leinart but, he COULD! And even if he didnt, like ya sad, if the frickin cards can do it and give themselves a chance to win, i guess we could too....at least i hope so....

steveo395 · 10-18-2006, 07:31 PM

A lot of the reason why young quarterbacks do bad is because they're on bad teams. We are not a bad team. Campbell can definitely succeed in this offense this year.

MightyJoeGibbs · 10-18-2006, 07:59 PM

From here and out....
Losing 3 games the season is done, so I would assume after the 3rd loss next season begins for us... and I would expect Brunell to part with his millions an retire.

Gee, are we supposed to be happy that Mark decided to stay for this season?
Hell no, gee mark no more favors ok, Mark's tenure at Washington should be enough to never have him acknowledged in conversation and in fact never remembered or talked about with respect. What ever good he statistically put up in Jax will be long forgotten.

Longtimefan · 10-18-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't agree.

If the Skins hit 7 losses the playoffs would be out of reach in all likelihood. It would make absolutely no sense to keep playing Brunell at that point. Gibbs isn't dumb, at that point he would know that it's time to begin the Campbell era. Besides, the fans would boo Brunell out of the stadium at that point.

I think you may be on to something here because there was a chorus of boo's during sunday's game, and they're going to get worse if the QB play continues to be ugly. We all know Gibbs's loyalty to Brunell, but if things don't get better he's going to have to consider the change whether he wants to or not.

Longtimefan · 10-18-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

don't be so sure about that (not named moss).

Santana was dissing the Cover-2 as a defense, said he'd be great at it even though he's never played corner. more importantly he was saying that's all defenses are doing to us. most words from him i've ever heard, this is Santana Moss, not T.O. about as much of a diss to the scheme/QB you can expect from him.

Does that mean Al Saunders does not know how to attack cover 2 with the passing game, or that Brunell cant make the throws?

Crat92 · 10-18-2006, 09:28 PM

He has to know! I coach middle-school football and I know how to attack it! The chink in the armour of the cover 2 is the middle of the field. Both safties help over the top of the corners leaving the middle of the field wide open. The miss match to exploit is the athletic TE vs. MB. Run the TE right up the the hash. Bam! Touchdown!Chris Cooley is supposed to be the "Tony Gonzales" of this offense. Last year he showed that he could make big plays. Why not this year? In order to beat this D for a TD or big play, requires the ball to be thrown deep. There in lies the problem! In comes Campbell with acuracy and a BIG arm! In this Al saunders can't possibly be considered as an Offensive "Guru" if he doesn't know this simple plan to attack the cover 2! It's chess, not checkers ladies and gentlemen! HAIL from MCUSA!

steveo395 · 10-18-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crat92

He has to know! I coach middle-school football and I know how to attack it! The chink in the armour of the cover 2 is the middle of the field. Both safties help over the top of the corners leaving the middle of the field wide open. The miss match to exploit is the athletic TE vs. MB. Run the TE right up the the hash. Bam! Touchdown!Chris Cooley is supposed to be the "Tony Gonzales" of this offense. Last year he should he could make big plays. Why not this year? In order to beat this D for a TD or big play, requires the ball to be thrown deep. There in lies the problem! In comes Campbell with acuracy and a BIG arm! In this Al saunders can't possibly be considered as an Offensive "Guru" if he doesn't know this simple plan to attack the cover 2! It's chess, not checkers ladies and gentlemen! HAIL from MCUSA!

brunell had guys open deep over the middle all game, but he was afraid to throw it

Crat92 · 10-18-2006, 09:46 PM

That's precisely my point! 'Preciate It! HAIL from MCUSA!

That Guy · 10-19-2006, 05:21 AM

just start him. at this point i'd wait till after indy. if we lose there, it's time to change. with our defense the way it is right now, the playoffs or a magic win streak seem so out of picture it's not even worth worrying about.

vaoutlaws2006 · 10-19-2006, 08:19 AM

if we lose to the colts...look for the change to made during the bye week. I really hope we win. but i am not going to hold my breath.

724Skinsfan · 10-19-2006, 10:08 AM

Smart receivers don't criticize the QB who is currently the one throwing them the ball. Wait until Campbell comes in and you may start hearing a couple of comments about the previous QB's skills from our receiving core.

MTK · 10-19-2006, 10:29 AM

When was the last time we heard any of Gibbs' players talking trash about each other??

I wouldn't count on it starting anytime soon.

724Skinsfan · 10-19-2006, 10:44 AM

You don't have to be talking trash to say something along the lines of "It's nice to finally be getting some attention" or "The way our offense is going now, the sky's the limit" or "Man, that kid throws a real pretty deep ball"

LadyT · 10-19-2006, 11:24 AM

The switch can't come soon enough for me.

Here's my worst nightmare: Somehow, we pull off a win this week. in doing so, Brunell buys himself more time. But, ultimately we lose more key games and the season goes down the tubes anyway. But, it happens too late for Gibbs to consider any QB change, so we are stuck with MB for another 10 games.

Everyone says starting Campbell means giving up on the season. I don't necessarily buy that theory. I feel he can't possibly be any more inept than Brunell. I'd rather have a QB who possibly throws more INTs, yet revitalizes our sick passing game, as opposed to a QB who rarely throws INTs because he doesn't attempt much beyond 10 yards. This offense needs a major spark and a QB change could be that spark.

Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.

10-18-2006, 05:33 PM	#46
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? Sometimes you have to go backward in order to go forward, being Brunell has us on a backward freefall I don't see the problem with starting a second year QB. Kind of funny but the Cardinals who were picked by many to be better than us had no problem throwing in the towel on the season to start a rookie QB, only if JC starts will the world come crashing down. Give me a break with Brunell already he was washed up before he arrived in DC and has only continued to decline!

10-18-2006, 07:31 PM	#48
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? A lot of the reason why young quarterbacks do bad is because they're on bad teams. We are not a bad team. Campbell can definitely succeed in this offense this year. __________________

10-18-2006, 07:59 PM	#49
MightyJoeGibbs The Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: B-More, the backdoor for the Redskins Community Age: 45 Posts: 1,087	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? From here and out.... Losing 3 games the season is done, so I would assume after the 3rd loss next season begins for us... and I would expect Brunell to part with his millions an retire. Gee, are we supposed to be happy that Mark decided to stay for this season? Hell no, gee mark no more favors ok, Mark's tenure at Washington should be enough to never have him acknowledged in conversation and in fact never remembered or talked about with respect. What ever good he statistically put up in Jax will be long forgotten. __________________ Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it's made up of two separate words "mank"and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery and that's why so is mankind. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts

10-18-2006, 09:28 PM	#52
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 51 Posts: 474	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? He has to know! I coach middle-school football and I know how to attack it! The chink in the armour of the cover 2 is the middle of the field. Both safties help over the top of the corners leaving the middle of the field wide open. The miss match to exploit is the athletic TE vs. MB. Run the TE right up the the hash. Bam! Touchdown!Chris Cooley is supposed to be the "Tony Gonzales" of this offense. Last year he showed that he could make big plays. Why not this year? In order to beat this D for a TD or big play, requires the ball to be thrown deep. There in lies the problem! In comes Campbell with acuracy and a BIG arm! In this Al saunders can't possibly be considered as an Offensive "Guru" if he doesn't know this simple plan to attack the cover 2! It's chess, not checkers ladies and gentlemen! HAIL from MCUSA! __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

10-18-2006, 09:46 PM	#54
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 51 Posts: 474	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? That's precisely my point! 'Preciate It! HAIL from MCUSA! __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

10-19-2006, 05:21 AM	#55
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? just start him. at this point i'd wait till after indy. if we lose there, it's time to change. with our defense the way it is right now, the playoffs or a magic win streak seem so out of picture it's not even worth worrying about.

10-19-2006, 08:19 AM	#56
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 52 Posts: 806	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? if we lose to the colts...look for the change to made during the bye week. I really hope we win. but i am not going to hold my breath. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

10-19-2006, 10:08 AM	#57
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? Smart receivers don't criticize the QB who is currently the one throwing them the ball. Wait until Campbell comes in and you may start hearing a couple of comments about the previous QB's skills from our receiving core. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-19-2006, 10:29 AM	#58
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? When was the last time we heard any of Gibbs' players talking trash about each other?? I wouldn't count on it starting anytime soon. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-19-2006, 10:44 AM	#59
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? You don't have to be talking trash to say something along the lines of "It's nice to finally be getting some attention" or "The way our offense is going now, the sky's the limit" or "Man, that kid throws a real pretty deep ball" __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-19-2006, 11:24 AM	#60
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? The switch can't come soon enough for me. Here's my worst nightmare: Somehow, we pull off a win this week. in doing so, Brunell buys himself more time. But, ultimately we lose more key games and the season goes down the tubes anyway. But, it happens too late for Gibbs to consider any QB change, so we are stuck with MB for another 10 games. Everyone says starting Campbell means giving up on the season. I don't necessarily buy that theory. I feel he can't possibly be any more inept than Brunell. I'd rather have a QB who possibly throws more INTs, yet revitalizes our sick passing game, as opposed to a QB who rarely throws INTs because he doesn't attempt much beyond 10 yards. This offense needs a major spark and a QB change could be that spark. Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.

Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made?

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