What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Cheerful1

Lloyd was in a pissy mood from the moment he arrived to FedEx Field on Sunday. He parked diagonal (in the players lot), taking up two parking spaces. Granted, he's driven to all of the home games therefore, he KNEW better. When the security officer asked him to move his car, he gave him lip.

I have to ask how do you know this?

[Cheerful1]

Because I was there.

[redsk1]

Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.

Good idea, let's reserve our ultimate judgement until we know some more info.

[Longtimefan]

David Patten has injury problems, he's missed most of the last two seasons. Today we have systematically dised both Lloyd, and Ranlde El which means we're down to Moss and Thrash. What are we going to do?

[hooskins]

I am very sad about all this Lloyd stuff because he is one of my favorites. I love his passion, and he always seems like he does well in the few chances he gets to make plays. I think he blocks, catches, all the dirty work. I still feel he never even gets the ball thrown towards him. It is ok now, because Campbell is young, but Lloyd really got F'ed over by Brunell, who only threw to Moss and Cooley because he sucked.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I am very sad about all this Lloyd stuff because he is one of my favorites. I love his passion, and he always seems like he does well in the few chances he gets to make plays. I think he blocks, catches, all the dirty work. I still feel he never even gets the ball thrown towards him. It is ok now, because Campbell is young, but Lloyd really got F'ed over by Brunell, who only threw to Moss and Cooley because he sucked.

Yes, all Brunells fault like when JC was only looking for Moss as Colley was wide open in the middle of the field twice as we needed a quick TD. Its time we quite blamming all of our problems on MB the all mighty one JC has not shown us anything more than what MB did. OK so Brunell has more years of experence but as I always read he sucks, weak arm, scared,slow and everything else that he gets blammed for. JC has youth, strong arm, fast, tall and he cannot out produce MB who you say sucks.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yes, all Brunells fault like when JC was only looking for Moss as Colley was wide open in the middle of the field twice as we needed a quick TD. Its time we quite blamming all of our problems on MB the all mighty one JC has not shown us anything more than what MB did. OK so Brunell has more years of experence but as I always read he sucks, weak arm, scared,slow and everything else that he gets blammed for. JC has youth, strong arm, fast, tall and he cannot out produce MB who you say sucks.

I will continue to say Brunell sucks, because he does. But just because he sucks doesnt make JC automatically good. If you read my thread about JC's inexperience I clearly mention numerous flaws that Campbell has, so I have no idea where you are going with that.

EDIT: I am 30 times harshing on Brunell because he is a freaking vet, they arent suppose to play like 2nd year QBs. I expected much more out of Brunell, and I am very disappointed.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I will continue to say Brunell sucks, because he does. But just because he sucks doesnt make JC automatically good. If you read my thread about JC's inexperience I clearly mention numerous flaws that Campbell has, so I have no idea where you are going with that.

EDIT: I am 30 times harshing on Brunell because he is a freaking vet, they arent suppose to play like 2nd year QBs. I expected much more out of Brunell, and I am very disappointed.

Let it go man. This thread isn't about Brunell, Campbell, Ramsey, Frerotte, Shuler, Banks, George, etc.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I will continue to say Brunell sucks, because he does. But just because he sucks doesnt make JC automatically good. If you read my thread about JC's inexperience I clearly mention numerous flaws that Campbell has, so I have no idea where you are going with that.

Maybe its just so dam old to keep hearing about how everything is MB fault. My point was if he suck that bad and JC cannot even produce his numbers where the hell is this going to go. The truth is that our team has sucked this year and it seems as everyone has stepped in the same I suck puddle.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Let it go man. This thread isn't about Brunell, Campbell, Ramsey, Frerotte, Shuler, Banks, George, etc.

Now that you bring it up if Brunell sucks that bad and Ramsey can't take his job then how bad does Ramsey suck?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Maybe its just so dam old to keep hearing about how everything is MB fault. My point was if he suck that bad and JC cannot even produce his numbers where the hell is this going to go. The truth is that our team has sucked this year and it seems as everyone has stepped in the same I suck puddle.

I see where you are coming from, but it is obvious that Brunell will never be better than he is right now. But Campbell, being young, has the potential of improving and becoming much better. You cannot seriously make a judgement about Campbell after his first 3 games.

I think the problem here is that everyone here is looking for a Big Ben, Brady, or Romo(who isnt even a very young qb, I am fucking sick of the media raving about how he is a great QB, even though he has had tons of reps on the practice field for years). Those kinda QBs are a dime in a dozen, and sitting there hoping for one will just make you crazy. You have to develop most NFL QBs.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I see where you are coming from, but it is obvious that Brunell will never be better than he is right now. But Campbell, being young, has the potential of improving and becoming much better. You cannot seriously make a judgement about Campbell after his first 3 games.

I think the problem here is that everyone here is looking for a Big Ben, Brady, or Romo(who isnt even a very young qb, I am fucking sick of the media raving about how he is a great QB, even though he has had tons of reps on the practice field for years). Those kinda QBs are a dime in a dozen, and sitting there hoping for one will just make you crazy. You have to develop most NFL QBs.

No I understand that JC is not going to light up the world after just three games. Yes, I know that it was time to switch QB and to start to look to our future. So we agree on those to things. I just get tired of all the MB sucks so everything is his fault. Maybe, it is but its just old. By the way I hate to say this Romo has lived up to all his hype. Yes, he could fall flat on his face anytime (which I hope he does) but so far I've been impressed.

[hooskins]

Even though I feel Brunell wasnt so great, I do realize he got the short end of the stick because our D sucked. If our D plays well, then any QB looks good. I am positive if we had the D we did last year, Brunell would still be in, and we would be a playoff contender.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Even though I feel Brunell wasnt so great, I do realize he got the short end of the stick because our D sucked. If our D plays well, then any QB looks good. I am positive if we had the D we did last year, Brunell would still be in, and we would be a playoff contender.

If you but the two together. Our D could not stop anyone and our O could not stay on the field so theres enough blame to go around. But. hey theres 4 more games to go and if we win all of them and lighting strikes 1,000 times we still have a chance. LOL