Seven Steps to Redskins Renewal

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If this was anyone else he would be run out of town.

But the point is that its not anyone else, its Joe Gibbs.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dgack

He's accountable for it, but I'm not so sure he's responsible for it. There's a big difference.

Indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But TJ Duckett? That's the problem. Michael Bennett was available, as was Thomas Jones. TJ Duckett just isn't a good power back.

I think the Bears realized what they had with Jones (who signed a monster contract right before they drafted Benson) once it became clear that Benson was unreliable. I'm sure they wouldn't have parted with him cheaply.

Mike "Chandelier" Bennett? No thanks. The last thing we need around here is another guy who breaks when you look at him sideways.

Remember that Duckett was Atlanta's version of Jerome Bettis at one point and was only forestalled from becoming the feature back there because Warrick Dunn keeps coming back each year and playing strong when by all accounts he should be reading his AARP subscription and playing shuffleboard. I think Duckett was a great "Gibbs back", I'm just puzzled why he wasn't thrown into the mix.

Of course I've said it before, the few times Sellers has gotten carries in the red zone I got dollar signs in my eyes. He's a bad man, and I have no idea why we haven't been using him in that capacity, either.

But then again, for as much as I love Joe, he admits now to something I thought odd a few years ago; namely completely misjudging how good of a back Betts is. So I guess it's entirely possible he just hasn't figured out yet that Sellers + red zone = paydirt (+ bonus punishment for any defenders unlucky enough to be between him and said paydirt).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But the point is that its not anyone else, its Joe Gibbs.

I understand but the past doesn't buy you anything. He has shown no ability to judge personel. Some of the teams w/ good GM's are just laughing at us. I mean Gibbs said Desmond Howard had no weaknesses.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I understand but the past doesn't buy you anything. He has shown no ability to judge personel. Some of the teams w/ good GM's are just laughing at us. I mean Gibbs said Desmond Howard had no weaknesses.

He's flat out said his job is to bring in guys who have the intangibles and character we are allegedly looking for. This is why I suspect a lot of the player evaluation stuff is coming from other people who he's delegated to and trusts. Also why I say he's still accountable, but probably not ultimately responsible for a lot of the bad player evaluations.

Unfortunately the only way that problem gets solved is for whomever that trust/power/responsibility has been delegated to, to be removed, and it will take a lot of high profile screwups for that to happen.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dgack

He's flat out said his job is to bring in guys who have the intangibles and character we are allegedly looking for. This is why I suspect a lot of the player evaluation stuff is coming from other people who he's delegated to and trusts. Also why I say he's still accountable, but probably not ultimately responsible for a lot of the bad player evaluations.

Unfortunately the only way that problem gets solved is for whomever that trust/power/responsibility has been delegated to, to be removed, and it will take a lot of high profile screwups for that to happen.

I assume Williams signed off on having Clark and Pierce leave. I guess he also thought AA, LM and AC were solid replacements. However Gibbs side of the ball is offense. IMO there was no need bring in two WR's. ARE would have been just fine. Thrash can play the 3rd wideout. Plus Thrash plays teams. Could have used the 3rd or 4th rounder we spent on LLoyd on a big wr and o-line or d-line depth.

[Citizens for 81]

I thought this tread was a 12-step program to help me get over my addiction to football teams that suck (2006 redskins).

[SWFlaSkinsFan]

Step #1: Get out from under as many "bad contracts" as we can.
Step #2: Re-commit to building this team through the draft ... I'm advocating trading down in the 1st Rd., and getting extra picks in
Day #1.
Step #3: When Coach Gibbs, Coach Williams and Coach Saunders
go in and start breaking down this train wreck, have the guts and
courage to admit that they did a p*%$-poor job of tailoring their
respective schemes to the personnel on-board, man-up about it,
and change their schemes accordingly.
Step #4: On offense, Al, please note: We play in the NFC East, and
that means we run the ball in November, December, and beyond.
Our O-line is constructed for just that purpose. Run CP and Betts
as your 1-2 if you like, but make better use of Sellers in those testy
3rd down and short and goal line situations. Remember "Heavy Jumbo"?
It worked, and it worked for a reason, even when the other team knew
it was coming, they rarely stopped it.
Step #5: On Defense, Greg, here's the deal, dawg ... the genius has
been exposed!! You've done about as bad a job of tailoring your defense
to the talents of the players you have as one can imagine!! Adam Archuletta
is on you, man ... you wanted him, you got him ... now either find a way to
utilize what he brings to the table, or get off the pot !! Is your system so
complex that our 2nd Rd. pick, Rocky McIntosh, still can't get on the field??
Take a que from Coach Gibbs, and check your ego at the door. And that goes for some of your assistants, too.
Step #6: Off-season work outs must have a clear purppose ... toward winning from the start in '07. Things like injuries can't be anticipated, but the number of nagging, "minor" injuries we've suffered this year is just alarming. It needs to be impressed upon everyone at the final team meeting later this year that everyone haas to own their share of this debacle, and be accountable for it. And it needs to be rammed home to every player that the in-house "crap" that settled over this team this year ends now. If anyone doesn't want to be here, fine ... leave! Those that want to be here, and believe in what we're about and are trying to build here, get started towards next year immediately by taking it upon themselves to hold each other accountable during the "off season" in their conditioning, re-hab workouts, and training work, by being present for every OTA, QB School Session, etc.
Bottom Line: If you're really upset about whats happened here this year, then be here in the off-season when it matters.
Step #7: Be prepared to bust your collective @$$&$ in traing camp next summer ... you've earned it !!

I've loved this team since I was a kid, growing up in Springfield, and following the troops on the radio ... was listening on that great day in '66 when we hung 72 pts. on the Gents. I remember when the running game revolved around A.D. Whitfield ... when Jurgenson to Taylor or Mitchell, or Jerry Smith was as good as 6 ... when Sam Huff was hurting the other teams for us, just like he did for the Gents. I remember when Lombardi came on board, and how excited me and my dad were ... and how sad we were when he became ill and died.

And while we're reflecting on the way things used to be ... bring back Frank Herzog ... his game calls were classic, and embodied the feel of the great teams of the '80's.

[irish]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Too bad you missed the Superbowl years. You would have more faith if you could remember them.

I remember the Super Bowl years quite well. I also remember that Gibbs was the coach and Betherd got the players. Now Gibbs is doing both with disasterous results.

BTW, the Super Bowl years were 15 years ago. That's ancient history and has nothing to do with what's happening now.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by Buster

7 Steps for a good season in 2007:

1. Healthy Portis
2. Healthy Moss
3. Healthy secondary
4. Healthy D-line
5. Healthy O-line
6. Get a kicker
7. Keep Campbell in

The above is a better seven step program than the first suggested list.

But # 6. Suisham seems better than Hall or Novak. Recommend competition in TC.


Welcome new posters!

[irish]

Originally Posted by backrow

The above is a better seven step program than the first suggested list.

But # 6. Suisham seems better than Hall or Novak. Recommend competition in TC.


Welcome new posters!

The above is not a better list because numbers 1 - 5 are out of the teams control. Injuries happen and there's nothing anyone can do about it.