Portis on 980

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Did you actually listen to the interview? He wasn't whining at all, he was giving a state of the team interview.. He said time and time again, 'I do what they tell me to do'. He's lost more than he's won since he's been here and has been a standup guy the entire time. I don't get people who call him a whiner.

I'm guessing not. It didn't sound like whining, it sounded like somebody frustrated with a bunch of BS issues keeping this team from reaching its potential.

[Hog1]

I have to agree as well. I did not agree with all CP had to say. I think he is wrong on some of his ideas. It was refreshing to hear nontheless

[gabe1984]

One of the most interesting points I thought Portis made was that there really aren't any team captiains. Did anyone else find that, well, a little off putting? It reminds me of the way the coaching staff is put together, at times it seems like there's no captain or general who has the final say on everything. Anyways, I've never been on a sports team that has not had team captains. Some were picked by the coaches, some were picked by players, but nevertheless, they play a very important role on any team. Do you think on game days in Baltimore Brian Billick is like, I'm sorry Ray, we know you're a great leader, and you strike fear into the hearts opposing offenses, but we're gonna let Kyle Bowler be captain today. I DON'T THINK SO!!!! We need Captains on this team to help maintain order in the locker room, and we need Joe Gibbs to be the General of the entire organization, no questions asked. Agree?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

One of the most interesting points I thought Portis made was that there really aren't any team captiains. Did anyone else find that, well, a little off putting? It reminds me of the way the coaching staff is put together, at times it seems like there's no captain or general who has the final say on everything. Anyways, I've never been on a sports team that has not had team captains. Some were picked by the coaches, some were picked by players, but nevertheless, they play a very important role on any team. Do you think on game days in Baltimore Brian Billick is like, I'm sorry Ray, we know you're a great leader, and you strike fear into the hearts opposing offenses, but we're gonna let Kyle Bowler be captain today. I DON'T THINK SO!!!! We need Captains on this team to help maintain order in the locker room, and we need Joe Gibbs to be the General of the entire organization, no questions asked. Agree?

Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.

I would add Randy Thomas as a potential captain.

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.

Ok, I'll agree that maybe Portis would not make the best captain, but it's really hard to tell unless he's given the opportuntiy and then fails at it. However, we definitely need to have captains, they should let the team vote on it. I think Rock would make a good captain too.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Ok, I'll agree that maybe Portis would not make the best captain, but it's really hard to tell unless he's given the opportuntiy and then fails at it. However, we definitely need to have captains, they should let the team vote on it. I think Rock would make a good captain too.

i dont understand why people care about players practice habits. as long as that player performs come game day, who gives a rats ass? not everyone can perform at a high level without the practice, but if portis, or anyone else for that matter, can do it, why not? it keeps the mind and body fresh. we are talking about practice, right?

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i dont understand why people care about players practice habits. as long as that player performs come game day, who gives a rats ass? not everyone can perform at a high level without the practice, but if portis, or anyone else for that matter, can do it, why not? it keeps the mind and body fresh. we are talking about practice, right?

Because practicing hard sets an example for the rest of the team. If some of the best players on our team start practicing hard then it will trickle down to the rest and totally change the attitude of the team.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i dont understand why people care about players practice habits. as long as that player performs come game day, who gives a rats ass? not everyone can perform at a high level without the practice, but if portis, or anyone else for that matter, can do it, why not? it keeps the mind and body fresh. we are talking about practice, right?

Cause it's a team sport more so than any other sport out there. Individual abilities can't make up for that. The team needs to practice.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i dont understand why people care about players practice habits. as long as that player performs come game day, who gives a rats ass? not everyone can perform at a high level without the practice, but if portis, or anyone else for that matter, can do it, why not? it keeps the mind and body fresh. we are talking about practice, right?

Because it sets a double standard. If Portis comes in and works his ass off in the weight room maybe he's a little stronger and doesn't hurt his shoulder. You don't see LT getting all these nagging injuries do you? That's becasue he puts time on the weight room. Listen, I know you don't treat everyone the same. Especially at the NFL level. But when your 5-11 you need your best players so stand up and set an example for guys like LLoyd.

[724Skinsfan]

The one thing that gets me about comparing Parcells return versus Gibbs return is that Parcells has always had the luxury of bringing in players that he knows and that know him and his coaching style. When Gibbs came back the only people he could bring in were his old coaches. Gibbs didn't have 3 or 4 players tagging along that understood Gibbs coaching style who in turn could help relate to other players.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i dont understand why people care about players practice habits. as long as that player performs come game day, who gives a rats ass? not everyone can perform at a high level without the practice, but if portis, or anyone else for that matter, can do it, why not? it keeps the mind and body fresh. we are talking about practice, right?

You must be a huge Allen Iverson fan then...hey, and Terrell Owens too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Ok, I'll agree that maybe Portis would not make the best captain, but it's really hard to tell unless he's given the opportuntiy and then fails at it. However, we definitely need to have captains, they should let the team vote on it. I think Rock would make a good captain too.

I would put Rock and Thomas in there as well. All Rock does is bust his ass and keep his mouth shut. I don't think you would find Rock bitching about playing in preseason. We need more guys like him and Thrash.

[gabe1984]

Yeah, one comment that Portis made on the interview made no sense to me at all. As mentioned before, Portis said he doesn't like to stay in the area in the off season because there's nothing to do, and that's when people start partying too much, or something to that effect. Haha, how's it gonna be any better in Miami avoiding partying?! Are you kidding me?! It would be 10 times worse!!

[gortiz]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Yeah, one comment that Portis made on the interview made no sense to me at all. As mentioned before, Portis said he doesn't like to stay in the area in the off season because there's nothing to do, and that's when people start partying too much, or something to that effect. Haha, how's it gonna be any better in Miami avoiding partying?! Are you kidding me?! It would be 10 times worse!!

I lived in west palm beach for four years and barely made it out alive, FLA will kill you if you don't take it easy. I can't imagine south beach...ha ha ha ha