Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF

[Monk-Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

I feel bad for Monk but like I've said in the past he was a good receiver but not HoF material. I think us Redskins fans are just going to have to accept the fact that Monk is not going into the HoF.

Your an Idiot, you dont know what you are talking about.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Monk-Fan

Your an Idiot, you dont know what you are talking about.

Thanks for the intelligent insight.

[56FAN]

we need to get rid of these writers who know less than most of us about football and put retired hall of fame coaches and players on a board to vote them in or not. who better to judge the worthiness or unworthiness of someone to enter the hall than one who is in there. what idiot put these know nothings never played game gum shoes in charge of who enters and who doesn't. they have proven again incapable of making wise choices. putting captian push off in before mr monk is beyond rediculous it's an insult.the hall will no longer matter to me as long as these people are allowd to make choices that they are not qualified to make.being a writer and or going to college doesn't impress me or make one more able to pick someone to enter the hall.the sheen is off the hall in my book.well, mr monk, you have been and always will a HALL OF FAMER to me and millions of others.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I know a lot of people are pissed about today's vote and perhaps Irish might have wanted to wait a day or two to post something saying Monk doesn't deserve to be in, but Irish IS entitled to his opinion and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks.

That being said, Irish, what the hell are you thinking! (j/k). But seriously, how can you possibly say that Monk doesn't deserve to be in? Because he didn't make a memorable catch? If that is actually a criterion of yours, then Brandon Lloyd should start getting ready to have his bust made. What does a memorable catch have to do with anything? What, if anything else, are your reasons why you don't think he should be in?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I know a lot of people are pissed about today's vote and perhaps Irish might have wanted to wait a day or two to post something saying Monk doesn't deserve to be in, but Irish IS entitled to his opinion and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks.

That being said, Irish, what the hell are you thinking! (j/k). But seriously, how can you possibly say that Monk doesn't deserve to be in? Because he didn't make a memorable catch? If that is actually a criterion of yours, then Brandon Lloyd should start getting ready to have his bust made. What does a memorable catch have to do with anything? What, if anything else, are your reasons why you don't think he should be in?

IMO the one of the biggest reasons Monk did not get the votes is because in the Super Bowls he just was not any kind of factor. I know he cant help how he was used (or not used) in the game plan but thats just the way it is. Also as I have said in the past his numbers while good when he retired are just not that outstanding now. He needed to get in within the first couple of years he was eligible, now that thats passed his numbers and memory keep fading. Unfortunately I just dont see him ever getting in.

[dblanch66]

Tremendous crock of steaming horseshit. DALLAS SUCKS!
I hate Michael Irvin. He sucks too.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by irish

IMO the one of the biggest reasons Monk did not get the votes is because in the Super Bowls he just was not any kind of factor. I know he cant help how he was used (or not used) in the game plan but thats just the way it is. Also as I have said in the past his numbers while good when he retired are just not that outstanding now. He needed to get in within the first couple of years he was eligible, now that thats passed his numbers and memory keep fading. Unfortunately I just dont see him ever getting in.

Now you are starting to get to me. You say while his numbers were good when he retired????????? He was th NFL all time leader in receptions when he retired. Take a look at the word good in the dictionary because you don't know what it means.

[GTripp0012]

I think its hard for anyone (Black, White, Asian, Rich, Poor, Religious, Non-believing, Cowboys Fan, intelligent football analyst, ignorant sportswriter) to say that Michael Irvin is clear cut better than Art Monk was. Their stats are pretty similar, Monk was better for longer, and Irvin has the better yards per catch (He also has nearly 200 fewer catches).

I don't have a big problem with Irvin getting in before Monk, but I have a huge problem with anyone who thinks that Irvin DID deserve to get in and also thinks that Art Monk DOESNT deserve it. That person owes me a personal explination.

[724Skinsfan]

Hold on now, guys. It actually seems to me that irish thinks he should have gotten in at one time but now that more and more receivers are becoming eligible with greater numbers, his chances are greatly diminishing.

I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong, irish) that he's saying Art is not HOF worthy, it's just that he's going to keep dropping down the list of NFL receiving stats, which is a primary focus of the election process.

By the way, I totally believe and always will believe that Art Monk should be in so don't take this post as me saying the opposite. I just didn't want this day to turn into one where fellow Redskins fans attack one another.

United we stand!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Just another example of how even negative press is better than no press. A crackhead loudmouth gets in before Monk. I don't know which was worse Irvin or Carson.

I swear that the negative bias by the media towards Snyder is a factor.

[70Chip]

"... but Irish IS entitled to his opinion ..."

I agree with this

"...and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks. "

But not this. Irish purposely tries to instigate trouble and therefore does not deserve to be shielded from abuse. His comments are akin to shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theatre.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Just another example of how even negative press is better than no press. A crackhead loudmouth gets in before Monk. I don't know which was worse Irvin or Carson.

I swear that the negative bias by the media towards Snyder is a factor.

Irvin. I told my wife earlier this morning "the only way this day could be worse if Monk doesn't get in was if Irvin gets in first."

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

**** IRVIN! I cant believe that coke-addled retarded piece of no count garbage got in b4 MONK! What the flying HELL! I am SOOOOOO mad.....i feel ya 724 skinsfan...i said the same thing...it could only get worse if Irvin gets in first. Screw that foolish HOF commitee. They have no clue WTF they are doing. Monk didnt make memorable catches my ASS! I agree sheriff gonna getcha, they should have a voting commitee of eother people who played with him or against him during his years, or other HOF players/coaches.

This is a sad day not in just Redskins history, but in the history of mankind. The f-ing world has lost its godddam mind Putting Irvin in there first.

[ChuckPrez]

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

"... but Irish IS entitled to his opinion ..."

I agree with this

"...and DOES deserve respect. So, please do not enage in personal attacks. "

But not this. Irish purposely tries to instigate trouble and therefore does not deserve to be shielded from abuse. His comments are akin to shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theatre.

I didn't notice it before, but then again my memory sucks. Perhaps he did or did not antagonize people in other posts, but his post in this thread probably didn't warrant personal attacks, even if it was ill-timed.