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Old 05-01-2007, 08:49 PM   #1
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

he sure would help out on 3rd down and in the red zone.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:06 PM   #2
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

omg aaahahahahahahaa he never saw this coming. he was just on espn talking about his carolina panthers and then this lololol classic
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:35 PM   #3
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

Why would we even think about this bum? I said he was garbage when Carolina signed him. He is T.O. without the talent and he was done when Dallas let him go. At least Carolina knows when to cut their losses.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:45 PM   #4
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

The guy has caught 70+ balls in 9 of the last 10 seasons.
When did we last have a 'bum' like that?
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:18 PM   #5
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The guy has caught 70+ balls in 9 of the last 10 seasons.
When did we last have a 'bum' like that?
You are dead on with this Davy.

Here is the bottom line

Brandon Llyod: 23 receptions, 365 yds, 0 tds
Keyshawn Johnson: 70 receptions, 815 yds, 4 tds

Yeah you can complain that Llyod had a qb who couldn't throw him the ball and a qb that was a rookie, but 0tds - even Todd Yoder and James Thrash got a td each.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:35 PM   #6
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

everyones saying that KJ will help us in the redzone but i thought that one of the many knocks on keyshawn was that he had trouble finding the endzone. Always caught like 70 balls but only 3-5 for touchdowns. I agree that hieght would help us in the redzone but im not really sure keyshawns that guy
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:55 PM   #7
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

The last time we had a bum like this? Westbrook or Gardner take your pick

Good one Grimmy, get a young stud next year with a high end draft pick, a kid with a long career ahead of him, preferably all with the Skins!!!!! Keyshawn will cost us a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$ and might piss off members of our present WR Corp.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #8
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and might piss off members of our present WR Corp.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to hurt Brandon's feelings. He might get cranky and alienate everyone within the organization. Oh wait....
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:16 AM   #9
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to hurt Brandon's feelings. He might get cranky and alienate everyone within the organization. Oh wait....
Man that stuff is over with.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:06 AM   #10
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

This is really a shock to me after watching him during the draft. He seemed excited to help Jarrett.
Anyone think that Keyshawn couldn't help us is wrong. Even at worst, being a 4th wr, he provides reliability and a veteran presence. That would give us a deep WR core. My concern would be his salary...but if we could get him for chump change, I'm all for it.

Who knows, it may help ARE and Lloyd perform better.
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This is really a shock to me after watching him during the draft. He seemed excited to help Jarrett.
Anyone think that Keyshawn couldn't help us is wrong. Even at worst, being a 4th wr, he provides reliability and a veteran presence. That would give us a deep WR core. My concern would be his salary...but if we could get him for chump change, I'm all for it.

Who knows, it may help ARE and Lloyd perform better.
I am on the fence here about him comming. I do know one thing though, he said that he wanted to go to a team and help them win another Super Bowl. I don't think that the Redskins are on his list. I think that it was a statement to probably get either the Colts or Pats attention.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:54 AM   #12
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

You could probably say this about 80% (or more) of the off-season threads but this one is worthless because the Skins will not bring him in and he would not sign here anyway. Mark it down.

Grim -

How do I explain his lack of production in Dallas? Well he averaged 70.5 receptions and 910 yards per year in his two seasons there. How is that unproductive? He isn't Jerry Rice, but he is a very solid 2/3 and your hatred of him is misplaced (maybe stemming from the his book or his getting 'Keyshawned' in Tampa, not sure exactly). I'll undoubtedly take some heat for this, but his career numbers actually match up quite favorably with Art Monk's so the only problem you could have with the guy is his attitude (which I don't see as a problem these days) rather than his production. But, again, he will not be a Redskin any time soon.

By the Numbers:

Keyshawn's Avg. Production Per Season through 11 Seasons:
74 Rec., 961 yds, 5.8 TDs

Art Monks Avg. Production Per Season in 15 Seasons (excluding final year in Philadephia):
62 Rec., 848 yds, 4.5 TDs

Art Monk's Avg. Production in his first 11 Seasons:
66 Rec., 903 yds, 4.72 TDs

And Keyshawn has been amazingly consistent. Not advocating his signing here, just pointing out that you cannot bash his production if you look at the numbers.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:41 AM   #13
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Re: Keyshawn Johnson released from Carolina.

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You could probably say this about 80% (or more) of the off-season threads but this one is worthless because the Skins will not bring him in and he would not sign here anyway. Mark it down.

Grim -

How do I explain his lack of production in Dallas? Well he averaged 70.5 receptions and 910 yards per year in his two seasons there. How is that unproductive? He isn't Jerry Rice, but he is a very solid 2/3 and your hatred of him is misplaced (maybe stemming from the his book or his getting 'Keyshawned' in Tampa, not sure exactly). I'll undoubtedly take some heat for this, but his career numbers actually match up quite favorably with Art Monk's so the only problem you could have with the guy is his attitude (which I don't see as a problem these days) rather than his production. But, again, he will not be a Redskin any time soon.

By the Numbers:

Keyshawn's Avg. Production Per Season through 11 Seasons:
74 Rec., 961 yds, 5.8 TDs

Art Monks Avg. Production Per Season in 15 Seasons (excluding final year in Philadephia):
62 Rec., 848 yds, 4.5 TDs

Art Monk's Avg. Production in his first 11 Seasons:
66 Rec., 903 yds, 4.72 TDs

And Keyshawn has been amazingly consistent. Not advocating his signing here, just pointing out that you cannot bash his production if you look at the numbers.
I hate to be the first one to point this out, but you are obviously not versed in the Redskins' Nation Monk for the Hall Party Line. Monk played in a completely different era where passing yards for receivers where nothing like they were during the time that Keyshawn compiled those stats. Not trying to take away from Keyshawn- because I think he has had a solid career and wouldn't mind him here because he fills a niche that no one else on our team currently does- but you should definitely not drag Monk's hallowed name, or stats, into this discussion.

Secondly, if I hear someone else say that we have a great WR corp I'm going to get belligerent. We DO NOT have a stand out receiving corp outside of Santana by any stretch of the imagination, and it actually is insulting to me that anyone could utter that regrettable opinion.
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I hate to be the first one to point this out, but you are obviously not versed in the Redskins' Nation Monk for the Hall Party Line. Monk played in a completely different era where passing yards for receivers where nothing like they were during the time that Keyshawn compiled those stats. Not trying to take away from Keyshawn- because I think he has had a solid career and wouldn't mind him here because he fills a niche that no one else on our team currently does- but you should definitely not drag Monk's hallowed name, or stats, into this discussion.

Secondly, if I hear someone else say that we have a great WR corp I'm going to get belligerent. We DO NOT have a stand out receiving corp outside of Santana by any stretch of the imagination, and it actually is insulting to me that anyone could utter that regrettable opinion.
Has anyone told you about the fact that we have one of the best receiving corps. in the NFL?
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:43 AM   #15
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I hate to be the first one to point this out, but you are obviously not versed in the Redskins' Nation Monk for the Hall Party Line. Monk played in a completely different era where passing yards for receivers where nothing like they were during the time that Keyshawn compiled those stats. Not trying to take away from Keyshawn- because I think he has had a solid career and wouldn't mind him here because he fills a niche that no one else on our team currently does- but you should definitely not drag Monk's hallowed name, or stats, into this discussion.

Secondly, if I hear someone else say that we have a great WR corp I'm going to get belligerent. We DO NOT have a stand out receiving corp outside of Santana by any stretch of the imagination, and it actually is insulting to me that anyone could utter that regrettable opinion.
Yes, well filial piety has a way of making certain topics untouchable doesn't it? Not saying Keyshawn is better than Monk, but people keep talking about how horrible Keyshawn is but that is based on personal prejudice rather than empirical data. Apologies for my irreverence, I guess I should just let sleeping dogmas lie.
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