Redskins_P presents Best Training Camp Battle

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-26-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

And that's the same reason we let productive guys like Pierce and Ryan Clark walk. Fox filled in nicely for us last year. If you watch the games as much as I do you would know that. No offense 'Quake. The FO may be itching to upgrade several players who wasn't drafted in the first round. Which makes no sense. More accurately, they would rather keep Fox as a special teamer and look to aquire 'first round talent' regardless of cost...

Judge a player by his game, not by where he's drafted.

i do watch the games like you do if not better than you no offense there either but dont compare vernon fox to antonio pierce who is a top middle linebacker in the league and ryan clark is also twice the player fox is and we let clark go to get arch so vernon fox is a good backup like omar stoudmire those 2 will basically do what stoudmire did for us in 2005 which is play the dime packages and blitz

EXoffender · 05-26-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

...ryan clark is also twice the player fox is and we let clark go to get arch ...

And Arch couldn't send Fox to the bench? What logic are the coaches using?

Pocket$ $traight · 05-27-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

Fox vs Landry et al. I think Fox won't go away easy.

Dude, if you are related to Fox that is one thing. He is 4th on the depth chart for that position.

And whoever said that Fox is average, all the average players are now offended.

dmek25 · 05-27-2007, 05:51 PM

any of you guys get S.I.? if you read the article about Mike TImlin, and his comments on Fred Smoot, we will be no better at that position then last season

KLHJ2 · 05-28-2007, 02:25 AM

SI.com - Writers - Third Man In (cont.) - Tuesday May 15, 2007 10:55AM
At defensive meetings each day, Tomlin put two pages on the overhead projector. One was the Loaf Chart, which totaled the number of plays on which each of his players had dogged it during the previous practice. Tomlin preached accountability. The other sheet was called the News, which singled out players for mistakes such as jumping offside or dropping an interception or looking half-asleep. "I'm not telling a story," Tomlin would say, "I'm reporting the news."

"You definitely did not want to be in his newscast," Smoot says. But midway through last season, he was. Eight games into the second year of a six-year, $34 million free-agent contract, Smoot was not playing well: no interceptions and just one pass breakup. Tomlin opened a midweek defensive meeting by saying, "We're going to have a change at cornerback. Cedric Griffin's going to replace Fred Smoot, and if Fred does not come and compete for the job, Cedric's going to be the corner the rest of the year."

Recalls Sharper, "The feeling in the room was, Wow! But Mike was so blunt, so honest, and he had said at the beginning of the year that's the way it was going to be."

"[Smoot] had to be replaced," Tomlin says, "and if you're going to have a tough time doing that, then don't take the job."
The boastful and supremely confident Smoot did not take his demotion well. But he rebounded to play better down the stretch. Now with the Washington Redskins, Smoot said last week, "When it happened, I was never so shocked. My heart fell to the floor. Understand the last time I didn't start a game was in 10th grade. But it worked. Mike ruffled some feathers, and it was good for the team. Mike made the right call. It woke me up. It made me a better football player, and I think it made me a better man."

When the Steelers interviewed Tomlin, president Art Rooney II asked him about the Smoot story. "We wanted a coach with the courage of his convictions," says Rooney. "We had good, strong internal candidates for the job, and whoever came in from the outside was going to have to jump over that bar. We thought Mike did."

Personally, I think that Smoot learned his lesson. I also believe that he wasn't cut out for the Cover Two. News Flash! The redskins do not run the Cover 2. Every year he was a Skin he played well. Until he falters here, I have nothing but respect for the man. IMO we have 3 #1 corners.

View Poll Results: Fiercest Camp Battle
LeMar vs. Rocky	55	33.54%
Smoot vs. Rogers	63	38.41%
Landry vs. Prioleau, Fox, Stoutmire, etc.	26	15.85%
Brunell vs. Collins	1	0.61%
Lloyd vs. Randle El	13	7.93%
Other (explain)	6	3.66%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

05-27-2007, 05:51 PM	#4
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Redskins_P presents Best Training Camp Battle any of you guys get S.I.? if you read the article about Mike TImlin, and his comments on Fred Smoot, we will be no better at that position then last season __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-28-2007, 02:25 AM	#5
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: Redskins_P presents Best Training Camp Battle SI.com - Writers - Third Man In (cont.) - Tuesday May 15, 2007 10:55AM At defensive meetings each day, Tomlin put two pages on the overhead projector. One was the Loaf Chart, which totaled the number of plays on which each of his players had dogged it during the previous practice. Tomlin preached accountability. The other sheet was called the News, which singled out players for mistakes such as jumping offside or dropping an interception or looking half-asleep. "I'm not telling a story," Tomlin would say, "I'm reporting the news." "You definitely did not want to be in his newscast," Smoot says. But midway through last season, he was. Eight games into the second year of a six-year, $34 million free-agent contract, Smoot was not playing well: no interceptions and just one pass breakup. Tomlin opened a midweek defensive meeting by saying, "We're going to have a change at cornerback. Cedric Griffin's going to replace Fred Smoot, and if Fred does not come and compete for the job, Cedric's going to be the corner the rest of the year." Recalls Sharper, "The feeling in the room was, Wow! But Mike was so blunt, so honest, and he had said at the beginning of the year that's the way it was going to be." "[Smoot] had to be replaced," Tomlin says, "and if you're going to have a tough time doing that, then don't take the job." The boastful and supremely confident Smoot did not take his demotion well. But he rebounded to play better down the stretch. Now with the Washington Redskins, Smoot said last week, "When it happened, I was never so shocked. My heart fell to the floor. Understand the last time I didn't start a game was in 10th grade. But it worked. Mike ruffled some feathers, and it was good for the team. Mike made the right call. It woke me up. It made me a better football player, and I think it made me a better man." When the Steelers interviewed Tomlin, president Art Rooney II asked him about the Smoot story. "We wanted a coach with the courage of his convictions," says Rooney. "We had good, strong internal candidates for the job, and whoever came in from the outside was going to have to jump over that bar. We thought Mike did." Personally, I think that Smoot learned his lesson. I also believe that he wasn't cut out for the Cover Two. News Flash! The redskins do not run the Cover 2. Every year he was a Skin he played well. Until he falters here, I have nothing but respect for the man. IMO we have 3 #1 corners.

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