ROY re-hashed!

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

You realize that you are setting yourself up for a Gus Frerotte joke right? Something like, pure passing qb's don't hesitate to headbutt walls.

You got me there!!!!!!!!! But Gus had a cannon, so does Young, both will end their careers without ever holding a Lombardi Trophy though

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

You got me there!!!!!!!!! But Gus had a cannon, so does Young, both will end their careers without ever holding a Lombardi Trophy though

Ramsey had a "cannon" but it doesnt mean jack shit. Sorry to bring up this old thread, but I dont see how your favorite Redskins could even be Gus.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Ramsey had a "cannon" but it doesnt mean jack shit. Sorry to bring up this old thread, but I dont see how your favorite Redskins could even be Gus.

I think we've all scratched our head at that one, but hey, some people are just a glutton for punishment.

[itvnetop]

as long as norm chow remains as OC in Tennessee, he'll find ways to make VY successful.

and MJD is no barry clone... he's known as a pinball, bouncing off of guys and rolling straight ahead. Bush is the only one who comes close to Barry's cutting ability- maybe even more.

[Monkeydad]

Actually, I thought it should have gone to Marques Colston.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

Actually, I thought it should have gone to Marques Colston.

I can see him over Jones-Drew.

RB is one of the easiest positions for rookies. QB and WR are much hard to adjust to so quickly.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can see him over Jones-Drew.

RB is one of the easiest positions for rookies. QB and WR are much hard to adjust to so quickly.

This is a good point, but while I agree that QB and WR are two of the toughest positions to adjust to on the field from college to the NFL, receivers who are young and struggling to adapt can still put up yardage numbers if they get enough PT and the QB throws them enough passes.

Here's what I'm saying: We've seen enough of Jones-Drew to be reasonably sure he's going to be a great runner in this league. We haven't seen Colston do anything that most other receiver couldnt do with ample oppertunities. Thus the conclusion is that we don't know if Colston is ever going to be anything more than a glorified slot receiver.

We'll know more after this season.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We'll know more after this season.

I agree...especially with Horn gone.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Buster

Actually, I thought it should have gone to Marques Colston.

I could agree with that, except that Colston completey died at the end of the season.

He caught only 16 balls for 169 yards and 1 td in his last 5 games. That's an average of only 3.2 catches a game and 33.8 yards per game. So when the going got tough, Colston disappeared.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I could agree with that, except that Colston completey died at the end of the season.

He caught only 16 balls for 169 yards and 1 td in his last 5 games. That's an average of only 3.2 catches a game and 33.8 yards per game. So when the going got tough, Colston disappeared.

In November, he had a hamstring (or similar) injury and missed three games and another in the final week, so that hurt his stats, but really, when hw was on the field, he performed well. Hey, Vince Young didn't play in every game either...he was behind KERRY COLLINS on the depth chart (who had JUST been signed) to start the year!

He had 7 catches for 84 yards against us in Week 15 and scored a TD in Week 16.


1038 yards and 8 TDs is good for any receiver, let alone an unknown rookie from Hostra who started the year behind Joe Horn on the depth chart.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I could agree with that, except that Colston completey died at the end of the season.

He caught only 16 balls for 169 yards and 1 td in his last 5 games. That's an average of only 3.2 catches a game and 33.8 yards per game. So when the going got tough, Colston disappeared.

It's called injuries.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's called injuries.

Then get off the field if you can't perform. Either you play cause you're healthy, or you sit cause your injured. Either way, he played and produced those numbers. I'm not saying he sucked or anything...he had a very good rookie season. I'd even vote for him over Young...just not Jones-Drew.

[Monkeydad]

Plus, Colston killed in fantasy football for me on all of my teams.

[12thMan]

For my money, Vince Young deserved it hands down.

[MTK]

We can pick apart Jones-Drew too, look at some of his more stellar games:

9/10: 2 carries, 8 yards
9/18: 2 carries, 4 yards
10/1: 3 carries, 3 yards
10/22: 8 carries, 10 yards
11/12: 3 carries, 11 yards

These are 5 games where he was a complete non-factor in the running game. Two of those games were against Houston who weren't exactly a run stopping powerhouse.

And another point, he didn't even top the 1000 yard mark for the season, I haven't done any research on this but I'd be willing to bet very few RBs if any have ever won ROY without running for 1000.