The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm a staunch Gibbs supporter, but these clock management issues definitely need to get worked out. I was pounding my fist on the bar when we took our second timeout. Gibbs gets a pass for the challenge, but we seriously need to find a new guy up in the booth. We've got to have one of the worst success rates on challenges in the league.

There seemed to be clock mgmt. issues across the league yesterday. Look at Dungy last night burning his last time out to talk to the refs about that illegal shift they got flagged on. Not trying to justify our issues, just saying that it's not exclusive to us.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

What are you talking about - "the previous games don't matter".

Read the title of the thread.

Now go back and answer your own question.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There seemed to be clock mgmt. issues across the league yesterday. Look at Dungy last night burning his last time out to talk to the refs about that illegal shift they got flagged on. Not trying to justify our issues, just saying that it's not exclusive to us.

Poor clock management is rampant throughout the league. Some staffs just manage the clock better than others.

The fact that the teams that do really don't win any more often than the teams that don't has lead me to the point that clock management is very overrated.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I am using the cumulative stats from previous games around the league as a way to measure the performance of the offense and defense yesterday. What are you using to measure their performance? You are just saying they should have scored more. Well, I guess that argument works every time.

I agree, we needed our offense to score when they had the chance. I'm not arguing that. However, if the defense did its job yesterday that would be a moot point. So, the defense didn't do its job and it's the offense's responsibility to bail them out. They didn't, and it's their fault we lost the game? Where's the logic?

Let me try that - the probability of the team that scores with the majority of the total points at the completion of one regulation game will be 100%.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Read the title of the thread.

Now go back and answer your own question.

Now read the rest of my post and what I replied to.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think you lost me at "Hi". Are you a math major ?

It's OK to concede a point. You don't have to act like you are lost.

The defense has bailed out the offense on many other occasions this year, but they lost us the game yesterday.

The offense doesn't owe the defense anything. You can't make that argument.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Let me try that - the probability of the team that scores with the majority of the total points at the completion of one regulation game will be 100%.

Unless you can form a reasonable argument, with something to support it, I'm done arguing. I've made my point, and you refuse to bring an intelligent argument. You haven't attacked ANY of the points I've made in my posts. You just ignore them, and keep repeating, "score more points, blah, blah, blah." That's totally worthless.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's OK to concede a point. You don't have to act like you are lost.

The defense has bailed out the offense on many other occasions this year, but they lost us the game yesterday.

The offense doesn't owe the defense anything. You can't make that argument.

"Act like" - did you follow or even try to follow his logic? No matter how good it was, it just wasn't presented well. And that's being nice.

[MTK]

The offense did enough yesterday to come away with the W.

Sorry, but the D blew it with countless DUMB penalties and a couple of back breaking big plays.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

"Act like" - did you follow or even try to follow his logic? No matter how good it was, it just wasn't presented well. And that's being nice.

GTripp is the stats master. I'm pretty sure he understands what I was getting at.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Unless you can form a reasonable argument, with something to support it, I'm done arguing. I've made my point, and you refuse to bring an intelligent argument. You haven't attacked ANY of the points I've made in my posts. You just ignore them, and keep repeating, "score more points, blah, blah, blah." That's totally worthless.

Just because you use stats and all that doesn't necessarily mean that your argument is intelligent.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

"Act like" - did you follow or even try to follow his logic? No matter how good it was, it just wasn't presented well. And that's being nice.

I thought it was incredibly straightforward and well presented.

Now I just realize that it's not really a difference of opinion, but it's just a chasm between your position and reality.

We're you one of the people who put everything on Brunell last year despite the 32nd ranked defense? If so, what does this defensive unit have to do to warrant criticism? Does London Fletcher have to commit armed robbery? They just didn't get the job done, or even close to done yesterday.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

GTripp is the stats master. I'm pretty sure he understands what I was getting at.

Yep. Pretty much.

I'm sure you could have dug a lot deeper if you had wanted to, but the case you made seemed pretty solid to me as it was.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Simma down now. I see this thread headed down the wrong path.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Simma down now. I see this thread headed down the wrong path.

I doubt it. Warriorzpath doesn't seem like the kind of guy who will attack people who disagree with him. I think he's dead wrong, but he's made his case civilly.