Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss?

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

I'm not sure Campbell is getting better.

His completion percentage is up, and so is his yardage. I'm perfectly fine with him receiving some of the blame for the loss, but when people start acting like he needs to be replaced, it pisses me off. What are you people expecting? Every quarterback makes mistakes. This quarterback in particular is still young, and playing with a patchwork offensive line and a makeshift receiving core. The supposed "top two" receivers can't stay healthy, and one drops half the balls thrown his way.

And honestly, those picks are lumps he has to take. Campbell is very good in a two minute offense and in the red zone. Almost too good for his own good. Throwing the picks will help him to learn that he can't do EVERYTHING. It just sucks that it happens with the game on the line, but it is something he will learn from.

And let's not forget, the Bucs have the #1 defense in the NFC. They've made a lot of more established quarterbacks look bad too.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I'm glad u came on here,with your connections is there any way you can get word to gibbs that everyone knows when jason lifts his leg in the shotgun the ball is snapped? thats happened every time he fumbles,he's making it way to easy for other teams to anticipate the snap

um...sure

[Gibbsmeatitle#1]

Right now Campbell, on his own, is good enough to "just" lose the big game when the pressures on. What he needs right now is another horse to shoulder the burden. Unfortunately, most of our marquis offensive players are suffering from aperiodic manopause that causes them to lose control of their extremities at key points in the game. There has got to be a pill out there to help. Doctors, quacks, anybody? Help us. Please.

[Cowell]

Yes Jason is accountable for this loss. I don't think it is all his fault but our defense gave him 2 chances at the end of the game and he through 2 passes right to the Bucs. That just won't cut it.

[memphisskin]

If Jason shoulders the blame, then who is he letting down? His wideouts dropped 4 passes in the first half, the running game is going nowhere, and the blocking is sporadic at best. We're getting no explosive plays, very little run after catch, and no one outside of Campbell making a play. So yeah, lets blame the one guy on the team who has shown some improvement. Or we could look around at the other skill positions and wonder when they're going to start pulling their own weight. I blame Moss, Portis, and Heyer for letting the d-end come around and hit Jason at the top of his five step drop.

[jgalecpa]

I want to compare JC to another Skins Qback, Mark Rypien.

I remember one season Ryp fumbled 8 times in a few games. Gibbs sat him down for a while.

Next year he wins the Super Bowl.

This was JC's 17th start. Rome wasn't built in a day, and outside Big Ben, very few QB's turn into super bowl MVP's in a year.

Is there stuff he can learn from? Sure. But... Moss and Portis fumbling concerns me a lot more. Moss has done this twice now in big games for us this year.

Portis did it twice today.

And don't get me started on Samuels not blocking his man that swattede the ball from JC on his blindside.

JC need to improve on his long pass accuracy and his received selection a bit.

He will be a better QB next year than this year.

Get him a healthy line, and it will be playoffs next year.

IMHO

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I'm glad u came on here,with your connections is there any way you can get word to gibbs that everyone knows when jason lifts his leg in the shotgun the ball is snapped? thats happened every time he fumbles,he's making it way to easy for other teams to anticipate the snap

Have you ever watched another NFL game before? Every team does that.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

His completion percentage is up, and so is his yardage. I'm perfectly fine with him receiving some of the blame for the loss, but when people start acting like he needs to be replaced, it pisses me off. What are you people expecting? Every quarterback makes mistakes. This quarterback in particular is still young, and playing with a patchwork offensive line and a makeshift receiving core. The supposed "top two" receivers can't stay healthy, and one drops half the balls thrown his way.

And honestly, those picks are lumps he has to take. Campbell is very good in a two minute offense and in the red zone. Almost too good for his own good. Throwing the picks will help him to learn that he can't do EVERYTHING. It just sucks that it happens with the game on the line, but it is something he will learn from.

And let's not forget, the Bucs have the #1 defense in the NFC. They've made a lot of more established quarterbacks look bad too.

I am a big Campbell fan. I bought his jersey before last year's season when Brunell was the starter. In fact, there's no "J" on it because it was before we signed K. Campbell.

That said, I expect him to learn from his mistakes. We all read and admired how he cried after last week's game-losing interception. To make the same mistake twice in three minutes today shows he did not learn how to look off the hot receiver, run or throw away the ball.

If it comes down to the same situation next week, would he throw another INT? I want him to start learning how to win games during the last minute, not come close but lose.

[Ocliw]

Cant blame Cambell. Ok it was poor decisions but if Moss and Portis hadnt muffed it right off the bat JC wouldnt have had another comeback on his mind.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

Cant blame Cambell. Ok it was poor decisions but if Moss and Portis hadnt muffed it right off the bat JC wouldnt have had the game on his shoulders.

Whether JC is to blame or not, I hope he stops fumbling practically every game (3 v. New England).

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Have you ever watched another NFL game before? Every team does that.

wow,your football knowledge is truly amazing,amazingly wrong!!!!!!!!!
every team doesnt do it,and they most certainly do not telegraph it the way Jason does,HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED AN NFL GAME BEFORE? have you not watched Campbell fumble from being blindsided these last games? how many of those were out of a shotgun snap where the snap count was anticipated?
Yes I have seen teams do it,but not every time,I just watched Warner out of the shotgun and he doesnt do it,and the good qb's like Favre will change their voice and cadence to draw the other teams offsides,you ever seen Campbell do that? please impress me some more of you football knowledge,like where you cant compare Romo to Campbell becuase he has 2 more yrs of riding the bench but only 3 more reg season starts

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

wow,your football knowledge is truly amazing,amazingly wrong!!!!!!!!!
every team doesnt do it,and they most certainly do not telegraph it the way Jason does,HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED AN NFL GAME BEFORE? have you not watched Campbell fumble from being blindsided these last games? how many of those were out of a shotgun snap where the snap count was anticipated?
Yes I have seen teams do it,but not every time,I just watched Warner out of the shotgun and he doesnt do it,and the good qb's like Favre will change their voice and cadence to draw the other teams offsides,you ever seen Campbell do that? please impress me some more of you football knowledge,like where you cant compare Romo to Campbell becuase he has 2 more yrs of riding the bench but only 3 more reg season starts

That's because Warner is playing at home right now. Why would he do a silent snap at home??

LOL who's amazingly wrong??

Not sure what you're watching but it's quite common around the league. It's called a silent snap.

[Ocliw]

Such highs and lows watching him. Great poise,hell of a long ball,doesnt bounce around all nervous like P. Manning, but he fumbles too much.

Cant have cake and eat it I guess but hell ,hes young. Im sure he will improve.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

wow,your football knowledge is truly amazing,amazingly wrong!!!!!!!!!
every team doesnt do it,and they most certainly do not telegraph it the way Jason does,HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED AN NFL GAME BEFORE? have you not watched Campbell fumble from being blindsided these last games? how many of those were out of a shotgun snap where the snap count was anticipated?
Yes I have seen teams do it,but not every time,I just watched Warner out of the shotgun and he doesnt do it,and the good qb's like Favre will change their voice and cadence to draw the other teams offsides,you ever seen Campbell do that? please impress me some more of you football knowledge,like where you cant compare Romo to Campbell becuase he has 2 more yrs of riding the bench but only 3 more reg season starts

Wow, are you serious? Every team does it in shotgun formation when they are playing in hostile and noisy environment. Not only that but they also fake it to throw off defenders...it's a visual snap count. You need to watch more football.

[VTSkins897]

our three key offensive players hindered us more than any other players today...

3 turnovers for the 'canes and 3 for the qb.