Vinny Cerrato promoted to Executive Vice President

[Skinny Tee]

Does this mean Vinny is our official GM now?

[redwagonskins]

washingtonpost.com

"Williams does not have a close relationship with Cerrato, which is seen by some around the league as a potential factor, and Snyder met with him on four occasions, gauging their ability to coexist as well as going over football issues.

What is going on in the world? Since when did the coach have to co-exist with the front-office? Coaches and front-office guys are supposed to bump heads so that all ideas are brought to the table. And who gives a s**t what Cerrato thinks. Is he more important to this organization than a coach who has consistently lead the defense? Hope not.

[skinsfan_nn]

Well with Joe stepping down, I don't think this should be a shocker to anyone. This is Dannys little boy.

Dan just doesn't get it! Don't think he ever will at this point!

There is absolutely NO telling which direction the organization will go!

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by QBall

National Championship with Lou Holtz at Notre Dame, SuperBowl ring with San Francisco, Skins. Without Vinny we don't have the depth that helped us make the playoffs this year.

I guess Washington fans need a scapegoat.

Really? The guy has been here for 9 years, not the last 6 weeks of the season. What's their record in the last 9 years? (hint: it ain't above .500)

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well now hang on folks.

Vinny was director of college scouting with the 49ers when they won a SB. He was Lou Holtz's top scouting guy when ND won a national championship. And if Gibbs is saying that Vinny and his crew had a major hand in developing our roster, then he had a hand in at least some of the following:

Anthony Montgomery
Kedric Golston
Reed Doughty
Chris Cooley
Rocky McIntosh
Chris Wilson
Stephon Heyer
Jason Campbell
Carlos Rogers
Sean Taylor
Laron Landry

Then the free agents, like Griffin, Washington, Springs, etcetera.

Vinny may have had a hand in Duckett, Lloyd, and Archuleta, which were crippling moves. But if Vinny's getting credit here, then you gotta give some love.

The tough thing is, I don't think any of us really know how much of the roster-building was Gibbs, and how much was Vinny.

Either way, the coaching decision is really the critical move. Vinny as Exec VP doesn't change much in my eyes. The new coach will work with Vinny to determine personnel needs. But it's the new coach that will have to deal with the players, and all the players want GW.

My point exactly. As I posted earlier, we don't know Vinny's real influence in decisions. Vinny does have a solid resume & in recent years we have picked up some good players in the late rounds of the draft. Plus, it's been fashionable to bash Snyder for meddling, but at the same time do we just bash Vinny because he continues to get paid while coaches come & go?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ahem

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/405330-post27.html

My pieces may be falling into place

I distinctly remember this. I hope you are right on all the way, kudos so far. Now we'll see if GW is announced as HC and Campbell moves up. If so, then all that's needed is the $ 1B+ to buy out Snyder and the "World is Ours !"

[GMScud]

I'm no math wiz, but I can put two and two together. Let's recap:

-Snyder loves Cerrato.
-Cerrato doesn't get along with Gregg Williams.
-Fassel was Vinny and Danny's #1 choice in '04 before Gibbs expressed interest in returning.
-Williams has had 4 meetings with Vinny/Danny and not been offered the job.
-Fassel has now been interviewed twice.
-Vinny just got promoted to head of all things football related for the Skins.

I smell an imminent head coaching hire, and it ain't GW.

[Dlyne8r]

GAWD...I simply cannot believe this shit! It looks as if this team is headed for the crapper again!!

[Paintrain]

The pieces should fall into place rather quickly now.. Cerrato's role is specifically defined, he's going to select Fassel or Mooch as the new head coach (probably Fassel), try to retain GW but will likely have to bring in another defensive coordinator (Ron Rivera, who is a LB coach for SD perhaps?) and go from there..

I'm going to remain optimistic.. If it goes Cerrato/Fassel, that's a Super Bowl front office guy + a Super Bowl coach which is an improvement (on paper) over anything we had pre-Gibbs.

[hesscl34]

Doom and gloom are back boys... Next thing you know TO will be running around in a Redskins jersey..

[backrow]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The pieces should fall into place rather quickly now.. Cerrato's role is specifically defined, he's going to select Fassel or Mooch as the new head coach (probably Fassel), try to retain GW but will likely have to bring in another defensive coordinator (Ron Rivera, who is a LB coach for SD perhaps?) and go from there..

I'm going to remain optimistic.. If it goes Cerrato/Fassel, that's a Super Bowl front office guy + a Super Bowl coach which is an improvement (on paper) over anything we had pre-Gibbs.

My first thoughts exactly when I read about VC's promo.

Maybe GW couldn't take a back seat to VC.

[hooskins]

I don't see what the big deal is, he is basically doing what he did before and a bit more. Practically our GM now. As someone said before now if shit goes bad we can hold him accountable. Good move.

[redwagonskins]

Don't forget that JG was the team president the last four years so picks from '04 to last year need to be looked upon in that light. Prior to '04, who knows who was really making the calls but Cerrato was here and Taylor Jacobs and Rod Gardner are names you might remember

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Decided to come back to the warpath huh? Welcome.

[rickmmrr]

One of the great things about Gibbs was is near god like status with Snyder. hence Gibbs could over rule Snyder and he would shut up. He would never keep his mouth shut for anyone else. Snyder thinks he's a football guy and Vinny's his mouth piece.

Back to the shit-er we go.