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[Monkeydad]

Screencap of CNN reporting on Putin's visit to Berlin. Too bad they moved Switzerland up and over to the Czech republic's spot on the map.

Notice how naming the Netherlands and Belgium was clearly to big a task.

[Monkeydad]

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Buster,

I don't think anyone is claiming other news agencies don't make mistakes or that they are totally unbiased. In my opinion, most major networks and newspapers are center-left (e.g., biased in favor of Dems). For example, nearly all mainstream newspapers endorse Dems during Presidential races.
HOWEVER, Fox News is far and away more biased than the "mainstream media." Fox News' support of the right is far more extreme than the mainstream media's support of the left.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Buster,

I don't think anyone is claiming other news agencies don't make mistakes or that they are totally unbiased. In my opinion, most major networks and newspapers are center-left (e.g., biased in favor of Dems). For example, nearly all mainstream newspapers endorse Dems during Presidential races.

HOWEVER, Fox News is far and away more biased than the "mainstream media." Fox News' support of the right is far more extreme than the mainstream media's support of the left.

Fox News is biased to the opposite views that the rest of the media's bias.

You posted a bunch of shots showing Fox mistakes, I'll just show other mistakes by other media sources? What's wrong with that?

So you admit that most other news sources are biased towards and endorse Democrats? ONE news outlet supports Republicans and you are so offended? The score is thousands-1 in favor of Dems and you think that a single news source showing the other side is horrible?

Sounds like something Stalin would say. "Hear me or hear nothing!"

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Buster

Fox News is biased to the opposite views that the rest of the media's bias.

So you admit that most other news sources are biased towards and endorse Democrats? ONE news outlet supports Republicans and you are so offended? The score is thousands-1 in favor of Dems and you think that a single news source showing the other side is horrible?

Sounds like something Stalin would say. "Hear me or hear nothing!"

I don't care for the mainstream media's left-leaning views and coverage. But, seeing as how Fox takes things to extremes, I find them comical. Do you admit that Fox leans right?

As for the score being "thousands-1" in favor of Dems, I don't think that's quite true. Talk radio is dominated by conservatives. Print media is dominated by center-lefties. Most networks are slightly left of center, but Fox is far right of center. In my view, it's pretty much a wash.

Finally, I never said I was offended by Fox News. I am not, but it seems like you are offended by criticism of Fox News. Nor am I offended by the left-of-center press. I prefer truly "fair and balanced" reporting, which is why I generally look to PBS, the BBC, and others for my news. I still watch some CNN and Fox News and read the NYT and WP, but I take everything they say with a big fat grain of salt.

PS - We should probably start a new thread if we are going to continue this discussion.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't care for the mainstream media's left-leaning views and coverage. But, seeing as how Fox takes things to extremes, I find them comical. Do you admit that Fox leans right?

As for the score being "thousands-1" in favor of Dems, I don't think that's quite true. Talk radio is dominated by conservatives. Print media is dominated by center-lefties. Most networks are slightly left of center, but Fox is far right of center. In my view, it's pretty much a wash.

Finally, I never said I was offended by Fox News. I am not, but it seems like you are offended by criticism of Fox News. Nor am I offended by the left-of-center press. I prefer truly "fair and balanced" reporting, which is why I generally look to PBS, the BBC, and others for my news. I still watch some CNN and Fox News and read the NYT and WP, but I take everything they say with a big fat grain of salt.

PS - We should probably start a new thread if we are going to continue
this discussion.

PBS is about a far left as you say FOX is far right. They are the most Bias of the media out there. Fox has right leaning people who have there shows but they say they are right wing and do not act as if they are media. Now the FOX news is pretty even keel if you ask me but people confuse their news to their shows like "The ORally Factor". Which is no secert is right leaning. Its these national news channells which lean left but act as if they are fair news outlets just reporting the story. If they would not hide behind the "I'm just a reporter reporting" and tell us what they are then all would be good. I read somewhere that like 90% of the media votes Dem.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Buster,

I don't think anyone is claiming other news agencies don't make mistakes or that they are totally unbiased. In my opinion, most major networks and newspapers are center-left (e.g., biased in favor of Dems). For example, nearly all mainstream newspapers endorse Dems during Presidential races.
HOWEVER, Fox News is far and away more biased than the "mainstream media." Fox News' support of the right is far more extreme than the mainstream media's support of the left.

That seems like a rather silly statement to make since it's virtually impossible to quantify.

I liked Fox News when it first came out, but over the past two years I've come to realize every major news network out there is pushing nothing but propaganda.

I had a few friends who were on a SWAT team that went to New Orleans during Katrina and several friends who served in Iraq. In other words, I've heard first-hand stories from guys who have been at the center of some of the major news stories in recent years, and to a man they tell me that almost everything on the major news networks is crap.

At best it's full of gross factual errors, at worst they're flat out lying and know damn well what they're doing.

CNN, Fox, NBC, ABC, whoever, it's a giant steaming crock of propaganda.

Bottom line: if watching CNN makes you feel better because they may lie a 95 times out of a 100 when Fox lies 96 times out of a 100, then I guess that's your choice. Personally I don't waste my time with network news any more.

My advice: do your own research and take everything with a grain of salt.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by mheisig

That seems like a rather silly statement to make since it's virtually impossible to quantify.

I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to believe that Fox is more biased in its reporting than the other networks.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to believe that Fox is more biased in its reporting than the other networks.

I definitely agree with you there, but the original statement wasn't phrased to lead the reader that is was an opinion or belief, but that it was a statement of fact

[Beemnseven]

I think the "right" misunderstands the nature of news. This is specifically regarding the reporting of violence in Iraq. The right will say, they're not telling us the good things that are happening in Iraq.

If a plane takes off in Chicago and safely lands in New York -- that's not going to make the news. If it crashes, then it's going to be on the front page. Now, is that mainstream media bias when they don't tell us about safe landings? Generally speaking, "good things" that happen isn't news.

Listening to Rush Limbaugh compain about the "drive by media" is like listening to someone complain that the sky is blue. It's just the way it is (to quote Cronkite).

Deal with it.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to believe that Fox is more biased in its reporting than the other networks.

when your pretty much the only network that leans to the right, your going to stick out and be noticed.

[Monksdown]

Fox is most assuredly more supportive of the "old time" values that are favored on the right. I like the perspective though, a majority of the rest of the country's media outlets are owned by former hippies.

[Monkeydad]

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'm starting a new thread about media bias. Please redirect your comments there.

[dmek25]

so because one republican senator was caught in a bathroom, they are all?