If You Ran the Redskins...

Paintrain · 12-12-2008, 11:16 PM

Out-Suisham, Washington, Taylor, Kendall, Jansen, Collins, Thrash

In-Dansby or Vilma, Mike Nugent, drafted DE, DT, OT, return specialist (Justin Miller or Allen Rossum?, Batch

On field personnel moves-Replace ARE and Rock on returns, move Landry full time to SS so he can play near the line, Springs full time to FS, resign Hall, starting WR are Moss, Kelly, ARE in the slot

Off field-Replace Bugel, Danny Smith, Hixon

skinsfan_nn · 12-13-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Out-Suisham, Washington, Taylor, Kendall, Jansen, Collins, Thrash

In-Dansby or Vilma, Mike Nugent, drafted DE, DT, OT, return specialist (Justin Miller or Allen Rossum?, Batch

On field personnel moves-Replace ARE and Rock on returns, move Landry full time to SS so he can play near the line, Springs full time to FS, resign Hall, starting WR are Moss, Kelly, ARE in the slot

Off field-Replace Bugel, Danny Smith, Hixon

Springs and full time don't belong in the same sentence. He's not 100%, probably can't play.....forget about it. More like Springs is replaced by Hall.

And Horton and LL are just fine, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

30gut · 12-13-2008, 03:15 AM

Hire this guy:

Jim Hueber
Title: Assistant Offensive Line Coach
Vikings : Coach Profile

Jim Hueber will look to help the Vikings offense build on their record-setting season on the ground as he enters his 3rd season with the team and his 35th in coaching in 2008

The senior member of the 2008 Vikings coaching staff is Assistant Offensive Line coach Jim Hueber, who enters his 35rd season of coaching and his 3rd in the NFL.

Ruhskins · 12-13-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Redskin

So, now its not blasphemous to role play what if I ran the redskins??????????

What about the beloved Snyder?? Does this scenario have a peacefully transistion in ownership??

I saw another thread started regarding should the skins move to DC.

I hope its just not when my thoughts on those matters are examined with hostility but that people can now discuss those safely.

Are you like WP's own T.O.?

53Fan · 12-13-2008, 04:18 AM

That's funny.

over the mountain · 12-13-2008, 05:10 AM

im too drunk to taste this chicken.

go skins!!

tryfuhl · 12-13-2008, 05:27 AM

Everyone talking about a new backup RB/special teamer

what about sproles or morris (seahawks)?

not really sure of their value, but they're quick and have had some good looking games/plays, don't know a lot about them though

schndr_tdd · 12-13-2008, 09:13 AM

Godd luck to the skins in the final games.As for next year they need to drop Jansen,Washington,Griffin,Randle El,Daniels,Fabini,Rabach,Kendall and Springs for sure.As for Campbell,i dont think he is going to be an elite QB.He holds on to the ball to long,doesnt see the whole field,misses open players.With that said the WR's havent hellped his credibility by dropping passes.But,he does not lead this offense Portis does.The Redskins need a leader at this position or someone that will at least TRY! The OL needs a youth movement,keep Samuels and Thomas and go younger.Lets see what this Brennan kid has.I watched him in college and although everyone says his mechanics are bad,he cant throw long,hes not smart,etc;he TRIES to shoot it out every play.He would be a bigtime spark,and he can throw on the run and excite the team.The Redskins waited to long to bring in youth now they are paying for it.

KI Skins Fan · 12-13-2008, 11:57 AM

First of all, I'd like to say "Hail!" since this is my first post. I grew up in D.C. and I've been a Redskins fan for many years.

I feel that the management of the team needs to decide if we're rebuilding or trying to make a playoff run. If we're rebuilding, and I think we should be, then we must stop bringing in older, high-salaried stop-gap players. These type of players are taking up too much salary cap room and some of them are costing us valuable draft picks.

Since I believe that we need to rebuild, I certainly agree with those posters who feel that our top priority needs to be rebuilding both lines for the future. I would start with the offensive line because I believe that a dominant offensive line is the key to building a dynasty.

I would start by paying top dollar for one or two proven, young free agent offensive linemen. For example, I think it would be a good idea to go after both Jordan Gross and Stacy Andrews. If we were to sign Gross to play LT, then Chris Samuels would move to RT. If we were to sign Stacy Andrews, then Andrews would play RT and Chris would stay at LT.

Next, I would do what it takes, moving up as necessary, to get Duke Robinson (6-5, 330) of Oklahoma in the draft. He has greatly impressed me this season and I think that he could start at guard right away.

Regardless of whatever else I might do, I would favor younger players over older players both for roster spots and playing time until we're at the point where we can go deep into the playoffs by adding a couple of key veteran free agents.

30gut · 12-13-2008, 12:08 PM

o Try and move Todd Collins to the Rams for a draft pick

o Sign Tavaris Jackson as low cost back-up, if the Vikings let him go:
he comes from a WCO scheme and would be a Seneca Wallace type
project for Zorn to mold, except that Jackson has more raw talent

Defensewins · 12-13-2008, 12:20 PM

1) Get rid of Vinny Cerratto and bring in a real GM. Let that new GM do his job and not micro-manage his every move.

2) Try to renegotiate J. Taylor, S. Springs, Washington, Antwan Randle El $6.1m in 2009 and Andre Cater $6.6M in 2009. If they say no, release Taylor, Springs and Washington in 2009 and release Carter and Randle El in 2010.

DirtyLandry · 12-13-2008, 12:21 PM

Cut Betts. His 3.3 ypc and 1 TD are not cutting it. sign Maurice Morris.

Keep Rabach as a back up, Sign Matt Birk.

Sign Albert Haynesworth, no matter what the cost. If Tenn resigns him, then go trade for a DT. Kevin Williams, Vince Wilfork, Tommie Harris, Kris Jenkins...I don't care what you have to give up, go get one. This year has proven that an elite DT can improve your entire D. (See Stroud in Buffalo or Jenkins in NY)

Draft O line and defense.

Goodbye Springs, Doughty, Suissham, Plackemeier, Betts, Thrash, Jansen and Golston.

Collins retires, promote Hawaii five-0 to #2. Trade for Seneca Wallace.

CRedskinsRule · 12-13-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

Cut Betts, sign Maurice Morris.

Keep Rabach as a back up, Sign Matt Birk.

Sign Albert Haynesworth, no matter what the cost. If Tenn resigns him, then go trade for a DT. Kevin Williams, Vince Wilfork, Tommie Harris, Kris Jenkins...I don't care what you have to give up, go get one.

Draft O line, D line and LB.

I REALLY understand the sentiment, but that was what got DS in trouble, you always have to care what you give up. I was real happy that we made no big splashes last year, and I think if we hadn't lost our DE at the beginning of training camp, we would be in great shape in the draft. But that loss forced the FO to go out and get Jason Taylor and now we have less draft potential and less cap room. (I think they had to get him at that point, but it was a shame nonetheless)
I hope Dan and Vinny stay with a patient approach, get a star if you can, but don't mortgage the future for a FA signing. Remember "Past performance does not guarantee future success"

DirtyLandry · 12-13-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I REALLY understand the sentiment, but that was what got DS in trouble, you always have to care what you give up. I was real happy that we made no big splashes last year, and I think if we hadn't lost our DE at the beginning of training camp, we would be in great shape in the draft. But that loss forced the FO to go out and get Jason Taylor and now we have less draft potential and less cap room. (I think they had to get him at that point, but it was a shame nonetheless)
I hope Dan and Vinny stay with a patient approach, get a star if you can, but don't mortgage the future for a FA signing. Remember "Past performance does not guarantee future success"

D Tackle is the only posistion I would do this. I edited my origional text to show why.

A10sROCK · 12-13-2008, 05:05 PM

Fire Danny Smith. Bring in competition from Suisham, Plack, Rock and ARE. Entire ST is well below average now and we need a new slate of players there and a new coach to drive them.

Keep Deangelo Hall. Dump Springs. No player is worth $1 mill a game and missing half the season.

Dump Collins. Bring in a veteran WCO QB. Give him lots of experience in the PS. Give JC until the middle of the season to win games; then open the gates to this veteran.

Draft for the OL and DL. Draft more OL than DL. Look for modest OL and DL FA players for reasonable salaries. If anyone won't restructure their salary dump them.

Marcus Washington, James Thrash, Rock Cartwright, Betts are all gone. Thx for the memories but we need new blood.

See how the WR do in the pre-season, no free rides. Rookies are in a make-or-break season. Hire at least one FA WR.

12-12-2008, 11:16 PM	#46
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Out-Suisham, Washington, Taylor, Kendall, Jansen, Collins, Thrash In-Dansby or Vilma, Mike Nugent, drafted DE, DT, OT, return specialist (Justin Miller or Allen Rossum?, Batch On field personnel moves-Replace ARE and Rock on returns, move Landry full time to SS so he can play near the line, Springs full time to FS, resign Hall, starting WR are Moss, Kelly, ARE in the slot Off field-Replace Bugel, Danny Smith, Hixon __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

12-13-2008, 03:15 AM	#48
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Hire this guy: Jim Hueber Title: Assistant Offensive Line Coach Vikings : Coach Profile Jim Hueber will look to help the Vikings offense build on their record-setting season on the ground as he enters his 3rd season with the team and his 35th in coaching in 2008 The senior member of the 2008 Vikings coaching staff is Assistant Offensive Line coach Jim Hueber, who enters his 35rd season of coaching and his 3rd in the NFL.

12-13-2008, 04:18 AM	#50
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... That's funny. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

12-13-2008, 05:10 AM	#51
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... im too drunk to taste this chicken. go skins!!

12-13-2008, 05:27 AM	#52
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Everyone talking about a new backup RB/special teamer what about sproles or morris (seahawks)? not really sure of their value, but they're quick and have had some good looking games/plays, don't know a lot about them though

12-13-2008, 09:13 AM	#53
schndr_tdd Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 104	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Godd luck to the skins in the final games.As for next year they need to drop Jansen,Washington,Griffin,Randle El,Daniels,Fabini,Rabach,Kendall and Springs for sure.As for Campbell,i dont think he is going to be an elite QB.He holds on to the ball to long,doesnt see the whole field,misses open players.With that said the WR's havent hellped his credibility by dropping passes.But,he does not lead this offense Portis does.The Redskins need a leader at this position or someone that will at least TRY! The OL needs a youth movement,keep Samuels and Thomas and go younger.Lets see what this Brennan kid has.I watched him in college and although everyone says his mechanics are bad,he cant throw long,hes not smart,etc;he TRIES to shoot it out every play.He would be a bigtime spark,and he can throw on the run and excite the team.The Redskins waited to long to bring in youth now they are paying for it.

12-13-2008, 11:57 AM	#54
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,399	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... First of all, I'd like to say "Hail!" since this is my first post. I grew up in D.C. and I've been a Redskins fan for many years. I feel that the management of the team needs to decide if we're rebuilding or trying to make a playoff run. If we're rebuilding, and I think we should be, then we must stop bringing in older, high-salaried stop-gap players. These type of players are taking up too much salary cap room and some of them are costing us valuable draft picks. Since I believe that we need to rebuild, I certainly agree with those posters who feel that our top priority needs to be rebuilding both lines for the future. I would start with the offensive line because I believe that a dominant offensive line is the key to building a dynasty. I would start by paying top dollar for one or two proven, young free agent offensive linemen. For example, I think it would be a good idea to go after both Jordan Gross and Stacy Andrews. If we were to sign Gross to play LT, then Chris Samuels would move to RT. If we were to sign Stacy Andrews, then Andrews would play RT and Chris would stay at LT. Next, I would do what it takes, moving up as necessary, to get Duke Robinson (6-5, 330) of Oklahoma in the draft. He has greatly impressed me this season and I think that he could start at guard right away. Regardless of whatever else I might do, I would favor younger players over older players both for roster spots and playing time until we're at the point where we can go deep into the playoffs by adding a couple of key veteran free agents.

12-13-2008, 12:08 PM	#55
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... o Try and move Todd Collins to the Rams for a draft pick o Sign Tavaris Jackson as low cost back-up, if the Vikings let him go: he comes from a WCO scheme and would be a Seneca Wallace type project for Zorn to mold, except that Jackson has more raw talent

12-13-2008, 12:20 PM	#56
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... 1) Get rid of Vinny Cerratto and bring in a real GM. Let that new GM do his job and not micro-manage his every move. 2) Try to renegotiate J. Taylor, S. Springs, Washington, Antwan Randle El $6.1m in 2009 and Andre Cater $6.6M in 2009. If they say no, release Taylor, Springs and Washington in 2009 and release Carter and Randle El in 2010.

12-13-2008, 12:21 PM	#57
DirtyLandry Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: lost in the sauce Posts: 377	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Cut Betts. His 3.3 ypc and 1 TD are not cutting it. sign Maurice Morris. Keep Rabach as a back up, Sign Matt Birk. Sign Albert Haynesworth, no matter what the cost. If Tenn resigns him, then go trade for a DT. Kevin Williams, Vince Wilfork, Tommie Harris, Kris Jenkins...I don't care what you have to give up, go get one. This year has proven that an elite DT can improve your entire D. (See Stroud in Buffalo or Jenkins in NY) Draft O line and defense. Goodbye Springs, Doughty, Suissham, Plackemeier, Betts, Thrash, Jansen and Golston. Collins retires, promote Hawaii five-0 to #2. Trade for Seneca Wallace. __________________ "I just went from six to midnight." Last edited by DirtyLandry; 12-13-2008 at 02:41 PM.

12-13-2008, 05:05 PM	#60
A10sROCK Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 520	Re: If You Ran the Redskins... Fire Danny Smith. Bring in competition from Suisham, Plack, Rock and ARE. Entire ST is well below average now and we need a new slate of players there and a new coach to drive them. Keep Deangelo Hall. Dump Springs. No player is worth $1 mill a game and missing half the season. Dump Collins. Bring in a veteran WCO QB. Give him lots of experience in the PS. Give JC until the middle of the season to win games; then open the gates to this veteran. Draft for the OL and DL. Draft more OL than DL. Look for modest OL and DL FA players for reasonable salaries. If anyone won't restructure their salary dump them. Marcus Washington, James Thrash, Rock Cartwright, Betts are all gone. Thx for the memories but we need new blood. See how the WR do in the pre-season, no free rides. Rookies are in a make-or-break season. Hire at least one FA WR.

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