No Redskins WR have attended 1st 2 days of workouts

[GridIron26]

^^ Let's see what Rex Ryan can do w/ Gholston

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

^^ Let's see what Rex Ryan can do w/ Gholston

Rex Ryan seems to be 3 to 4 times a better coach than Mangini will ever be, but understanding the type of player that Gholston is, you absolutely have to expect him to hit the ground running in order to be successful.

I do think we'll be pretty certain by October 1 this year whether Gholston is a bust or not.

The reasoning is this: the allure to taking him at No. 6 overall is that you are drafting a matchup nightmare for offensive coordinators. The idea was to get a player who can't be blocked by the Khalif Barnes', and Tony Ugoh's of the world. They'll need help. Well, if he was supposedly athletic enough to be that guy, I'm thinking that we would have seen some sign by the 20 game mark. He's not getting more athletic as he gets older.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's an everybody makes mistakes kind of thing. Granted. I want to point out that Vinny made a mistake, without trying to look like he deserves to be dismissed.

In reality, Vinny probably knew he was taking a risk. Hey, the Jets also took a risk on Vernon Gholston at No. 6. After one year, early results show that the teams both lost their gambles.

The risk the Jets took was way, way more costly to them if they lose. But at the same time, you look at Vernon Gholston and you say "boy, if those projections are wrong, we're going to have one of the most talented defensive players in the NFL." With Thomas, it was "if those projections are wrong, we're going to have a young, starting WR who might be a No. 1 or a No. 2!" Well, great, but that's not a type of player that's all that hard to find, so the risk really wasn't necessary at all.

The silver-lining, as I've said all along, is that it was a second round pick. We lost the chance to fill other needs, but that's it. If Gholston doesn't show up this year, the Jets lost out on a whole lot of money, and it could set their franchise back a year.

A healthy Malcolm Kelly is the insurance policy in case Devin Thomas doesn't develop. The Jets don't have an insurance policy for Golston, they just have bad defense.

Given the redskins recent history of drafted WRs i would say thats a very hard thing to find.


Couldn't kind of the same thing be said the other way around? DT is an insurance policy in case MK cant be healthy?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Given the redskins recent history of drafted WRs i would say thats a very hard thing to find.


Couldn't kind of the same thing be said the other way around? DT is an insurance policy in case MK cant be healthy?

1) Very, very true. 'Tis always a new day, though.

2) Yeah, of course. I only phrased it that way since DT was drafted first.

[MTK]

I'd say the jury is still out. Let's give Thomas another season or two before we write the pick off as a mistake.

[redskinslover]

well u might not like kelly or thomas but it is already been proven that ARE has yet to establish himself at all and Trash i meant Thrash none of our wr can get open and teams know this and the front office knew this thats y we have 3 new recvrs i hope they can stay healthy and be productive if not janky spanky will get worn out again this year and dont get me wrong Mr. Moss is better suited in the slot not a true # 1 srry i like moss but he is not no S Smith

[SmootSmack]

Thomas was at Redskins Park yesterday catching passes from Campbell, if anyone cares

[Soup's Uncle]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thomas was at Redskins Park yesterday catching passes from Campbell, if anyone cares

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thomas was at Redskins Park yesterday catching passes from Campbell, if anyone cares

I think Thomas and Kelly have probably been doing more than people realize. People just like to bash them over what happened last year. They were rookies. They should take some blame for being out of shape, but I think they now know what it takes to be productive in this league and are taking the right steps.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think Thomas and Kelly have probably been doing more than people realize. People just like to bash them over what happened last year. They were rookies. They should take some blame for being out of shape, but I think they now know what it takes to be productive in this league and are taking the right steps.

I concur.
I'm more worried about Stan Hixon. Why did Devin feel the need to workout with Santana to improve route running. It's the coach's job to teach his receivers such fundemental things.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I concur.
I'm more worried about Stan Hixon. Why did Devin feel the need to workout with Santana to improve route running. It's the coach's job to teach his receivers such fundemental things.

Nothing wrong with a little mentoring from Moss. DT needs all the help he can get. Just because he's working with Moss I don't think we need to take that as he's not working with Hixon as well.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing wrong with a little mentoring from Moss. DT needs all the help he can get. Just because he's working with Moss I don't think we need to take that as he's not working with Hixon as well.

I don't like Hixon, I wish he were gone. That said, I absolutely agree with Matty on this. Moss can teach DT and MK everything and anything he wants. That's all gravy for having him on the team.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing wrong with a little mentoring from Moss. DT needs all the help he can get. Just because he's working with Moss I don't think we need to take that as he's not working with Hixon as well.

I am not supporting Hixon but you gotta think as a receiver it would be more enjoyable to learn from Moss, just because it's a co-worker rather than a boss.

Just like I rather study with friends instead of the the professor. I am not saying ignore the coach, and I am sure Hixon does try to help the receivers because he isn't an idiot; he knows his ass is on the line. I think this story should be more a positive story to show DT is trying to improve, rather than a "glass half empty" take on Hixon.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think Thomas and Kelly have probably been doing more than people realize. People just like to bash them over what happened last year. They were rookies. They should take some blame for being out of shape, but I think they now know what it takes to be productive in this league and are taking the right steps.

Fans are aware that the third year tends to be the breakout year for receivers, but this second year is the critical year for development, IMO. If we see clear, positive signs of improvement across the board, I'll feel really good about our 2008 draft, even if neither Kelly or Thomas starts a game.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thomas was at Redskins Park yesterday catching passes from Campbell, if anyone cares

Yay! That's what we want! more! more! Join in, Fred Davis!