FOX - Botched trade will put pressure on Redskins

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

JC's QB rating his first 2 years were in the 70's and last year a minimimal improvement into the low 80's.

Cutler's record as a starter is 17-20, correct. and how about that great Broncos Defense? What do you think the Redskins record would have been if the Redskins were not 5th in D, but 30th like Denver? probably 5-11 at best.

Okay, but what about the fact that last year Denver had a better offensive line and better WRs than the Redskins?

How can you say that Denver's bad D was the reason for Cutler's record, while ignoring the fact that Campbell was under more pressure and had to throw the ball to arguably less reliable receivers?

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Okay, but what about the fact that last year Denver had a better offensive line and better WRs than the Redskins?

How can you say that Denver's bad D was the reason for Cutler's record, while ignoring the fact that Campbell was under more pressure and had to throw the ball to arguably less reliable receivers?

because it suits his argument. Some people dont want to see all sides to a story just the one that works for them.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

JC's QB rating his first 2 years were in the 70's and last year a minimimal improvement into the low 80's.

Cutler's record as a starter is 17-20, correct. and how about that great Broncos Defense? What do you think the Redskins record would have been if the Redskins were not 5th in D, but 30th like Denver? probably 5-11 at best.

Probably 6-10. And then Campbell would be 15-23 career, or still pretty much about what Jay Cutler is.

[CRedskinsRule]

Whatever, about ratings, and all the JC hate out there.

At this point in time it makes no sense to let JC go and start over now. So it just seems that JC must have more than one "jilted ex-lover".

[tryfuhl]

Campbell was 19th in QB rating last year
Roethlisberger was 24th


Rivers was first, Pennington 2nd for what it's worth

NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN

[GTripp0012]

I see Thirsty Thursday isn't just for us crazy collegiates.

[redskins1974]

well, there are people like me who cant stand JC and others that like him. However, recent events display his declining stock value and what the rest of the league thinks of JC. Denver coach preferred Orton to JC, lol, and we couldnt unload JC to ANY team in the NFL for a 2nd round pick. that about speaks for itself. at least we only have one more year of him. hopefully Portis and the Defense can carry the load to the playoffs....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

well, there are people like me who cant stand JC and others that like him. However, recent events display his declining stock value and what the rest of the league thinks of JC. Denver coach preferred Orton to JC, lol, and we couldnt unload JC to ANY team in the NFL for a 2nd round pick. that about speaks for itself. at least we only have one more year of him. hopefully Portis and the Defense can carry the load to the playoffs....

What has he done exactly that makes you unable to stand him? I mean that sounds pretty strong.

[redskins1974]

Honestly, its just lack of success of the team. Though not the only reason, the QB is the #1 position on the field, and plays a large part. A couple of our best runs in the last 5 years was when we ran the table twice to end each year and make the playoffs (Brunell, Collins) - not JC. Defenses do not respect JC. Do you think he can bring us to the Super Bowl? thats the question you have to ask yourself....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

Honestly, its just lack of success of the team. Though not the only reason, the QB is the #1 position on the field, and plays a large part. A couple of our best runs in the last 5 years was when we ran the table twice to end each year and make the playoffs (Brunell, Collins) - not JC. Defenses do not respect JC. Do you think he can bring us to the Super Bowl? thats the question you have to ask yourself....

So you never answered my question. What name were your previously posting under last year? Multiple accounts aren't allowed, so fess up and maybe I'll spare you.

To answer your question regarding JC I honestly don't know. I think in the first 8 games last year we saw what is capable of when supported by good protection and a good ground game. I definitely think we need to see what he can do in year #2 under Zorn. If he doesn't take a big step forward this year he will be gone next year without a doubt.

[redskins1974]

this is the first time on this sight.....
when i was speaking of being on blogs last year, it was another site, Extremeskins.com

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

this is the first time on this sight.....
when i was speaking of being on blogs last year, it was another site, Extremeskins.com

That's not what you said, you specifically said "this site"...

[redskins1974]

it was not this site. my mistake if i previously wrote 'this site".

lets move on from this issue, there are more important things in the world to worry about.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

it was not this site. my mistake if i previously wrote 'this site".

lets move on from this issue, there are more important things in the world to worry about.

I disagree, there's nothing more important in the world!

Seriously though, if we applied that sentiment to everything on this site, the whole thing would just be shut down. It's just football, not war, but it obviously means a lot to those who take the time to post here.

Also, in my unbiased opinion, extremeskins is not a highly regarded site by the warpath faithful, and people here strive to be better than ES.

[MTK]

What do you say guys, thumbs up (live) or down (die)? You make the call.