Cardinals Release RB James

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

What's frustrating is Vinny and the "brain trust" always seem to be several steps behind the times. It's not that they can't find good football players, it's that they're too late in adapting to the game. The league starts utilizing big, athletic receivers particularly in the red zone with fades and jump balls. Skins jump on the boat several years later and draft three big targets. The league puts a high premium on pass rushers and as a result, championships are won by those who get after the QB. Years later again, the skins FO wakes up and adds Haynesworth and Orakpo. Most NFL teams start going to a running back by committee rushing attack. Running backs have a shorter shelf life than most positions, and the NFL adjusts accordingly. If teams don't have 3 starting caliber backs, they certainly have 2. I'm still waiting for the Redskins to roll with the times on this one.

It doesn't sound like you are viewing the whole league...just the Guants formula for success.

1). Not all the NFL's winning teams have "big" receivers. EX: Eagles, Panthers, Steelers, Ravens. All playoff teams whose primary receiver is under 6 feet tall.

2). We have put a premium on pass rushers in recent history, we just won't reach for a guy in the draft. Carter, Arrington (drafted 3rd overall), Washington were all considered to be "pass rushers". Hell, even old ass Bruce Smith.

3). I don't know what you think "starting caliber" is for RB's but no one could reasonably afford to have 3! Referance the playoff teams above. You are lucky to have two (like the Panthers) but well off with 1 stud and a solid back-up (like the Patriots).

If you disapprove of the FO so much...go root for another team! Snyder isn't going anywhere and Vinny has actually improved our talent acquisition since taking over.

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

It doesn't sound like you are viewing the whole league...just the Guants formula for success.

1). Not all the NFL's winning teams have "big" receivers. EX: Eagles, Panthers, Steelers, Ravens. All playoff teams whose primary receiver is under 6 feet tall.

Uh. You're wrong. Patriots have Randy Moss. Giants had Plaxico. Cards have Fitzgerald, Boldin. Steelers have Holmes, who is 5'11" but won them the game with his outstanding leaping ability and spectacular catches. Eagles are the exception and panthers are primarily a rushing O.

2). We have put a premium on pass rushers in recent history, we just won't reach for a guy in the draft. Carter, Arrington (drafted 3rd overall), Washington were all considered to be "pass rushers". Hell, even old ass Bruce Smith.

You gave me 3 names for the last 15 years. Of these names, Arrington was only a true pass rusher for one year, and Bruce Smith...well let's not go there. Fact is, the FO has not put emphasis on this position until recently.

3). I don't know what you think "starting caliber" is for RB's but no one could reasonably afford to have 3! Referance the playoff teams above. You are lucky to have two (like the Panthers) but well off with 1 stud and a solid back-up (like the Patriots).

You're reaching dude. I can think of most teams in the NFL that now have at least two starting caliber backs on their team. We are the only team now that promotes a primary one back system. Gtripp confirmed this, and agreed with me that running back is a definite need on this team.

If you disapprove of the FO so much...go root for another team! Snyder isn't going anywhere and Vinny has actually improved our talent acquisition since taking over

So the fact that I disapprove of the FO makes me a hater and I am not loyal? Are you kidding me? This site would not even exist if this were the protocol for being a skins fan. By the way, after searching your post history, you have just proven yourself to be a hypocrite. Clearly you're not ok with all of the moves this front office has made. If it were up to you, Matt Hasselbeck would be our starting QB. Don't give me any self righteous sh*t about being a fan.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

So the fact that I disapprove of the FO makes me a hater and I am not loyal? Are you kidding me? This site would not even exist if this were the protocol for being a skins fan. By the way, after searching your post history, you have just proven yourself to be a hypocrite. Clearly you're not ok with all of the moves this front office has made. If it were up to you, Matt Hasselbeck would be our starting QB. Don't give me any self righteous sh*t about being a fan.

Actually, if you have viewed my post history you would see that I view the last few years of our acquisition very favorably. Next time you make a statement, please reference a specific post.

Also, the Hasselbeck point you are trying to use was in response to a thread (I believe tounge in cheek) about using MH as a stop gap until Brennan is ready to start, if Seattle would have chosen Sanchez and dropped MH. And yes, I would have approved of that strategy and traded JC for a 2nd round pick this year (hopefully to the Vikings) which could have been used on OT's Loadholt or Beatty. I am one who readily admits that I see Brennan taking over at QB in 2010 or 2011 if we would have acquired MH in free agency. All a moot point now, post-draft.

Maybe I was a bit harsh, but...unapologetically so. I do not see the point in some of you guys constantly berating the FO and bashing every move we do/don't make. I do not agree with everything we do but, to answer your quip, yes...I do root for whomever is wearing a Redskins jersey come football season. That's what fans do whether they agree with the personnel or not. I am not a Rush Limbaugh-esque Skins fan. I'll never want my team to fail simply because I don't like the boss's strategy. But hey that's me...keep on hating!

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Actually, if you have viewed my post history you would see that I view the last few years of our acquisition very favorably. Next time you make a statement, please reference a specific post.

Dude, you're so far off base. Someone questions our backup RB and accuses the FO of being slow to make the proper personnel moves, so they are a hater? First of all, I went on record as saying I have approved most of what Vinny has done the last two seasons. You clearly overlooked that post within this thread. I absolutely loved the Haynesworth and Hall signings while most people blasted VC. I like Jason Campbell and fall into the category of those who wish to add to the O line instead of going after a big name QB. Just because I disapprove of a certain player, doesn't mean that I'm not going to cheer on my team. If we had given up our draft and moved up for Sanchez, I would have been pissed as hell, but I'm still going to root for the Redskins. For you to question my allegiance based on the fact that I want a new RB, and to say that I want the team to fail, is absolutely childish and ridiculous.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

Uh. You're wrong. Patriots have Randy Moss. Giants had Plaxico. Cards have Fitzgerald, Boldin. Steelers have Holmes, who is 5'11" but won them the game with his outstanding leaping ability and spectacular catches. Eagles are the exception and panthers are primarily a rushing O.

I think you missed his point, he wasn't saying EVERY playoff team has small wr's, but that some (and he provided examples) do.
Funny you used the pats as an example, they won super bowls without him, and not with him. haha.

You're reaching dude. I can think of most teams in the NFL that now have at least two starting caliber backs on their team. We are the only team now that promotes a primary one back system. Gtripp confirmed this, and agreed with me that running back is a definite need on this team.

It's amazing what 1 year can do...Betts was considered a viable starting caliber back just a year ago. I think we need to get younger at the position personally, but it's not like Betts is a piece of poo.
Wow...the ONLY team huh? Sure you don't want to rethink that?

[GTripp0012]

There are teams in the league who have worse RB situations than we do:

1. Seattle
2. St. Louis
3. Kansas City
4. Jacksonville
5. Cincinnati
6. Green Bay
7. Cleveland

But that's about it. We're in the last quadrant in terms of RB depth. And our solution is to lean more heavily than anyone else on their No. 1 RB. Which, I don't think is a very sound strategy.

[celts32]

The skins have no use for Edge what so ever. The Redskins need a change of pace back behind Portis. Someone who can take it to the house. Betts gets like 5 carries a game...his role is irrelevant unless CP is injured. The Redskins need someone who can present a different dimension to the running game then CP and it isn't Edge or Betts.

[KingRaloIV]

Lets make a move for James and get rid of Betts! Lets put Mason in to back up portis and let james be the power back. He is durable and would be a good 1-2 punch for the running game.

[Skins4L]

^
agreed.

Edge would be a solid pickup... hed be great pounding up the middle when CP needs a spell.
Lets sign Edgerrin James (one year deal). then proceed to TRADE Betts.

next year WE SHOULD draft another RB. at least a second rounder with potential.