Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.

You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt. Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Does it matter? Lewis will call the plays for the Eagles game and Zorn will be fired. Lewis will be named Intrim HC for the remaining part of the season. He'll get an interview to satisfy the Rooney rule and DS will bring in some GM, who will decide on a HC maybe with DS's persuation and everyone of the coaching staff will be cut. New blood brought in and players evaluated for the future of the team.

My gut feeling.

I'm diggin that dude..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

This may be old news but when we spoke last about this topic it was wild rumor. This now has been confirmed as truth.

Most the things we speak about on here are basically what ifs because we don't really know what the front office does behind closed doors but this affirms that they committed this action during this offseason.

I think it speaks volumes about what they plan to do this offseason and how they plan to structure the future front office...with or without Vinny.

It also speaks about how they are going to treat the next coach who comes to DC. They offered a job to someone without first having a vacancy. If that is no big deal to you then you're probably not one of the perspective coaches for the Washington Redskins because they'd probably give this some thought.

Sources: Mike Shanahan Turned Down Redskins Coaching Job -- NFL FanHouse

I guess I'll ask the same question here that I asked in another thread. What is so true now that we didn't know two weeks ago?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt. Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.

I will keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. sorry. Look they took a shot with JZ to try and find the next diamond in the rough. He was a lump of coal. They gave him time to get something going. He wouldn't change. Bashing for bringing in a consultant is idiotic. Teams do it all the time. Hell the Colts re-hired two coaches who retired as consultants this year, yeah it was politics but whatever. Look everyone HATES where we are this season, but the Pure hatred/angst against Snyder is ridiculous. People would have been Lambasting JKC when Pardee was our coach, and switched to Gibbs who went 0-5. Don't say they wouldn't, I was only a teen but I remember the Post articles and JG having to go to Theismann to save his job. Losing is crappy. I hate it. But the FO is trying to stay within football parameters of in-season staffing changes. If they fired Zorn, people would be calling foul on Snyder, if they did nothing people would be calling foul, etc etc.

I just want to see this team win like everyone else, but I still will remain hopeful as they try to find the right in-season solution.

[tryfuhl]

My biggest issue is that we don't know that Sherm can call it any better than Zorn, it's not like he's very well known for it. I would've preferred it went to Sherman Smith, at least he's been here for awhile and helps come up with the gameplan

[53Fan]

Well Lewis has a lot of experience in the WCO but his track record for playcalling isn't very good. Compared to Zorn though, it might be great and we get more production.... or we might find that playcalling hasn't been the problem, it's the players. It's probably a little of both. Either way it should be interesting. Since we really have no control in what we do we might as well hope for the best. Zorn's playcalling has been criticized repeatedly, so if that is the problem, maybe mixing things up can help. If things go further south, I can't see Vinny getting out of this unscathed since most of these changes seem to be his decisions. I think they saw the kind of man they wanted to lead this team in Zorn, but they don't know how to handle the adversity now that things haven't gone as planned. The way I see it, either things work out, which would be great, or Vinny ends up looking desperate and incompetent which should lead to change and that wouldn't suck either.

[tryfuhl]

Covering it on espn they showed a lot of the mistakes, lack of execution, and were like "oh yeah, that's zorn's fault too" "ooo fumble, zorn's fault" .. then after bringing collins in "oh yeah, campbell was the issue.." etc

we do rank number 1 in fumbles though and zorn needs to make sure that's fixed immediately, no excuse for all of them, especially just on shotgun snaps

went on to mention vinny brought zorn in, most of the personnel decisions are on him, etc

stuff that we all knew and have mentioned for awhile, but have passed by on the news, but now they're actually giving us significant airtime, I guess that's a good thing

won't hear anybody saying that there's a media bias now. and everyone finally has to admit that there hasn't really been

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Id rather playcalling go to the other Sherman. He has no experience either, but atleast he's more familar with the offense. The main thing (other than just plain sucking at pretty much everything he was hired to do) is Zorn was being pulled in too many directions.

What offense bro? Is that would we have been doing for the last 6 games. I thought offenses were suppose to score points. We dont have a offense lets hope Sherman Lewis can game plan better than Zorn.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Yep, the last call he made was "B-27".

Well if he goes out their and we score of 21 points what the hell would that make Zorn look like? I tell you it would make Zorn look like this:confused-

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Playcalling might be better, but it all boils down to execution. Zorn might not be a good play caller, but still the players should be able to execute them no matter what is called.

I think the Players dont even believe when Zorn calls a that it will work. They had to make a change because Zorn runs the offense and it has gotten worse every game.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

My biggest issue is that we don't know that Sherm can call it any better than Zorn, it's not like he's very well known for it. I would've preferred it went to Sherman Smith, at least he's been here for awhile and helps come up with the gameplan

The FO wants to give the play calling over to a coach that has playing experience. Sherman Lewis does and Sherman Smith doesn't. Zorn has lost the confidence of his offense players in my mind. Its time to try a new approach so why not let Sherman Lewis get a shot at it? Zorn is gone either in the season or the end of the season. I think they need to let Blache or Gray take over for the rest of the season and let Zorn go now.

[franklinhimself]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

washingtonpost.com

Thank you! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until we see how he does on Monday night, but I don't see at all any serious reason for optimism. He basically had the job of Sherman Smith- title of OC, but didn't do shit for all those years.

Our FO is absolutely the worst. I Like Zorn, but I'm glad he's sucking if the rumors are true that Vinny's fate is tied to Zorn's.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I think the Players dont even believe when Zorn calls a that it will work. They had to make a change because Zorn runs the offense and it has gotten worse every game.

exactly, and execution suffers when players think they are playing for wile E coyote super genius.

This will be a good thing. Possibly a REALLY good thing

[DynamiteRave]

Lewis is old. Not saying that old dude's cant hack it. But he's been out of football for quite some time hasn't he? I heard some of the team hadn't even met him yet.. Can't say that bodes well for the Monday night's game..

[BDBohnzie]

Again, another band-aid that Snyder and Cerrato are putting on a severed leg. There is no reason to make this move unless you are looking to remove Zorn at some point during the year.