I must have missed yesterday's game...

[12thMan]

Yeah, the notion that our defense somehow let us down or didn't come through is ridiculous.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Yeah, the notion that our defense somehow let us down or didn't come through is ridiculous.

The counter-argument would be that the standard needs to be that they are the best defense on the field every week, given the resources we have put in them. On Sunday, they were not the best defense on the field.

But, again, that's as much about a really good defensive gameplan from Dallas as anything. It was a well, well above average performance, even including the last drive. Of course, some would say that the difference between well above average and elite is the difference between a winner and a loser.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The counter-argument would be that the standard needs to be that they are the best defense on the field every week, given the resources we have put in them. On Sunday, they were not the best defense on the field.

But, again, that's as much about a really good defensive gameplan from Dallas as anything. It was a well, well above average performance, even including the last drive. Of course, some would say that the difference between well above average and elite is the difference between a winner and a loser.

I kept thinking this all day watching the game, Dallas did a great job defensively. But then in the same sentence they didnt have much to go up against. Our offense is/was horrific and we still should have won that game.One thing I do know, our pass defense was the best on the field all day long. If our offense wasnt in the bottom 3 in the league we would probably be .500. I go back to what the guys on the field say London Fletch and Jerry Gray, you hold a team to 7 points on the road, you should beat that team everytime.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I kept thinking this all day watching the game, Dallas did a great job defensively. But then in the same sentence they didnt have much to go up against. Our offense is/was horrific and we still should have won that game.One thing I do know, our pass defense was the best on the field all day long. If our offense wasnt in the bottom 3 in the league we would probably be .500. I go back to what the guys on the field say London Fletch and Jerry Gray, you hold a team to 7 points on the road, you should beat that team everytime.

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Defense played great on Sunday, but the Cowboys defense was at least twice as good. Give them credit: the effort from all 11 guys was in no way lacking, and it's probably as good as they've looked this year schematically, but the Cowboys D was just twice as good.

This loss wasn't on the D, but only once in the last two years have they been able to close the deal, and that was the Philly game last season. You can count the Rams game this year as well if you like, even though the Rams never really threatened.

Some of you guys really seem to be humping the Dallas D. Maybe Sandtrap can join in.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Some of you guys really seem to be humping the Dallas D. Maybe Sandtrap can join in.

I just thought the strong suit of Dallas was there offense, but the defense was very surprisingly good during the game. I think Hamlin being out was a plus for them, he overated and sux. I also was saying in the previous post that our offense is so f*ing horrible, it can make anybody look steller.

[ethat001]

Anyone that's upset with our offense is STUPID.

Name one other NFL team that can be without:
1) Pro Bowl LT
2) Pro Bowl RB
3) Pro Bowl TE
4) Starting RG
5) Back-up RG
6) Back-up RB

I know every team has injuries, but what other team has anywhere close to decimation of our offense? It wasn't very good to begin with, and I don't expect it to be very good now.

I view the rest of the season as a good try-out for the back-ups, and a good chance for the WR's to get more practice running routes. Maybe FDavis practicing blocking. And Jason Campbell - well, trying not to get hurt. We have no chance on making the playoffs, may as well get a good draft pick.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Anyone that's upset with our offense is STUPID.

Name one other NFL team that can be without:
1) Pro Bowl LT
2) Pro Bowl RB
3) Pro Bowl TE
4) Starting RG
5) Back-up RG
6) Back-up RB

I know every team has injuries, but what other team has anywhere close to decimation of our offense? It wasn't very good to begin with, and I don't expect it to be very good now.

I view the rest of the season as a good try-out for the back-ups, and a good chance for the WR's to get more practice running routes. Maybe FDavis practicing blocking. And Jason Campbell - well, trying not to get hurt. We have no chance on making the playoffs, may as well get a good draft pick.

And how was the offense playing when all those players were healthy?? Exactly. 100% healthy or really banged up, this offense is bad.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

And how was the offense playing when all those players were healthy?? Exactly. 100% healthy or really banged up, this offense is bad.

Yeah it's not like injuries have killed the production of the offense, they stunk even before the injuries. 6 points is piss poor production no matter who is out there.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Anyone that's upset with our offense is STUPID.

Name one other NFL team that can be without:
1) Pro Bowl LT
2) Pro Bowl RB
3) Pro Bowl TE
4) Starting RG
5) Back-up RG
6) Back-up RB

I know every team has injuries, but what other team has anywhere close to decimation of our offense? It wasn't very good to begin with, and I don't expect it to be very good now.

I view the rest of the season as a good try-out for the back-ups, and a good chance for the WR's to get more practice running routes. Maybe FDavis practicing blocking. And Jason Campbell - well, trying not to get hurt. We have no chance on making the playoffs, may as well get a good draft pick.

Yeah, our offense was ON FIRE before we lost those guys

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Yeah, our offense was ON FIRE before we lost those guys

it was? :-)

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

it was? :-)

Ahh shit I forgot to hit the sarcasm button.

[SmootSmack]

I will say this though...our defense is not the same without AH. He's an absolute difference maker

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I will say this though...our defense is not the same without AH. He's an absolute difference maker

Agreed. I actually think that all thing being equal we would've won w/him. For all the effort of the D, there was still very little pass rush. Even on the last td, Carter almost gets Romo, but the play was made by Romo buying time, the coverage was there.

If you cover for that long, your guys up front have got to get on the qb. On so many plays Romo had time, or was able to step up easily. With AH in there the pressure & the run d would've been different from the get go.

[GTripp0012]

Defense played great on Sunday, but the Cowboys defense was at least twice as good. Give them credit: the effort from all 11 guys was in no way lacking, and it's probably as good as they've looked this year schematically, but the Cowboys D was just twice as good.

This loss wasn't on the D, but only once in the last two years have they been able to close the deal, and that was the Philly game last season. You can count the Rams game this year as well if you like, even though the Rams never really threatened.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Defense played great on Sunday, but the Cowboys defense was at least twice as good. Give them credit: the effort from all 11 guys was in no way lacking, and it's probably as good as they've looked this year schematically, but the Cowboys D was just twice as good.

This loss wasn't on the D, but only once in the last two years have they been able to close the deal, and that was the Philly game last season. You can count the Rams game this year as well if you like, even though the Rams never really threatened.

How do your figure that their D was twice as good? We got into scoring postion 4 times and Dallas only twice. Once our D made a play causing a fumble and the 2nd we gave up a TD. If we scored when given the chance by their D we win and missed the chances.