Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

[70Chip]

I wouldn't sweat the global warming since there is a nearby star that could go Supernova at any moment and fry us all anyways:

Supernova may wipe out the Earth | The Sun |News

At any rate, it does seem a bit odd that the solution to Global Warming is somehow Global Socialism. What a coincidence. And it gained currency right after the failure of the Soviet experiment. Not a moment too soon.

[saden1]

How odd...a scientic revelation about a star going Supernova is illuminated while dismissing another scientific revalation about the earth warming. The oddity of the thoughtless mind is truly fascinating, as is sensationalization of articles written in a tabloid newspaper.

If we can just hold on and not cook ourselves for ten million years we maybe able to see T Pyxidis. No guarantee you'll die from the explosion though as the star will be further away by then and since it doesn't produce high energy radiation our ozone will be safe too.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by saden1

How odd...a scientic revelation about a star going Supernova is illuminated while dismissing another scientific revalation about the earth warming. The oddity of the thoughtless mind is truly fascinating, as is sensationalization of articles written in a tabloid newspaper.

If we can just hold on and not cook ourselves for ten million years we maybe able to see T Pyxidis. No guarantee you'll die from the explosion though as the star will be further away by then and since it doesn't produce high energy radiation our ozone will be safe too.

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[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by BringBackJoeT

Well, maybe I still have some reading to do on this issue, but at least my current understanding is that referring to climatic developments as "global de-insulation" is inaccurate, and that referring to it as global "warming" is in fact the more appropriate label.

Scientists crediting the warming of the Earth to human activity describe it as follows. The sun radiates heat toward the Earth, and it is indeed the ozone layer in the atmosphere that prevents all of the heat being radiated from the sun from hitting the planet. For the heat that does reach the Earth, however, much of it is radiated back into the atmosphere toward space. However, the greenhouses gases in the atmosphere (carbon dioxide being a primary one) trap the heat being radiated back into space. These gases have existed in the atmosphere for millions of years, and they have effectively helped the planet maintain a temperature that has allowed life to form. But the inordinate amount of carbon dioxide being shot into the atmosphere by humans is intensifying the "trapping" character of the gases, which results in a level of warming that is higher that is generally experienced in natural climatic cycles.

So, basically, it is not a de-insulation, but rather an increased insulation.

That's at least how I've understood it. Feel free to enlighten me more.

Sorry that it took me so long to get back. Your statements are true for the most part just incomplete. I probably could have picked a better word than De Insulation, but I was trying to keep it simple I am believe that it is hard to make someone understand that overinsulating something can cause a refrigeration type of effect. Being as under the influence as I was, it just seemed easier to explain as "deinsulating" rather than over insulating. I still believe that "Global Warming" is an incorrect term. then again it's a bunch of smart guys trying to keep it simple for the rest of us.

Colder Temperatures Increase Ozone Damage
Ozone depletion damage gets much worse when the stratosphere is very cold. This has been the case the past two years, causing extensive ozone depletion. This past winter, ozone depletion reached the most severe levels ever recorded over the Northern Hemisphere. Western United States ozone levels also continue to drop 3-4 percent per decade. Even if all of our efforts to stop harmful emissions are successful, the ozone layer is not expected to begin recovery until around 2020 at the earliest.
Global Warming Can Increase Ozone Depletion
Scientist's are concerned that continued global warming will accelerate ozone destruction and increase stratospheric ozone depletion. Ozone depletion gets worse when the stratosphere (where the ozone layer is), becomes colder. Because global warming traps heat in the troposphere, less heat reaches the stratosphere which will make it colder. Greenhouse gases act like a blanket for the troposphere and make the stratosphere colder. In other words, global warming can make ozone depletion much worse right when it is supposed to begin its recovery during the next century.

Global Warming and Ozone Depletion

[budw38]

The Global Warming Scam ... this from 1922 Inside the Beltway - Washington Times

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I just got back from checking on my boat and its cold as he!! outside and its only going to get colder this week. Right now the temp is around 25 and my boat is surround by ice but I have its heater on so its nice and warm. Its so cold that the pelicans are dying and the fish are floating to the top of the water in parts of NC. I cannot remember the last time that we have had it this cold for this amount of time in VA. So hows your weather?

Cold!! And the only one profiting from it is PEPCO, they love it. When I got last months electric bill I was like the man who bought his first Mercedes Benz and after a couple of months realized the impact the payments were having on the family budget. He said to his wife "Mercy-Deez-Payments Are Killing Me". Cold = Cost.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Cold!! And the only one profiting from it is PEPCO, they love it. When I got last months electric bill I was like the man who bought his first Mercedes Benz and after a couple of months realized the impact the payments were having on the family budget. He said to his wife "Mercy-Deez-Payments Are Killing Me". Cold = Cost.

When I first got married 10 years ago we lived in this old farm house right on the river. It had very little insulation and when the wind blew off the water we had to crank the heat. It had gas heat and we had one bill for like $500 and another over $600. It was a great place to live but we paid for that great view.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Just thought I'd throw this in the mix (yes, it's Fox News).

FOXNews.com - 30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Just thought I'd throw this in the mix (yes, it's Fox News).

FOXNews.com - 30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says

That's a re-run from the 70s!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Speaking of heating, what is it with these electrical companies saying they need to raise prices despite record profits? Dominion is really f-ing up my monthly bill recently.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Speaking of heating, what is it with these electrical companies saying they need to raise prices despite record profits? Dominion is really f-ing up my monthly bill recently.

That's what happens when you have a monopoly. Eff VEPCO, Dominion, or whatever they'll call themselves in the future.

[budw38]

Copenhagen Summit Turned Junket? - CBS News . Our politicians use 3) military jets , 2) 737's that tax payers provided them , these jets put out enough Co2 to fill 10,000 swiming pools .

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Of course you can trust the IPCC's conclusions.....

FOXNews.com - U.N. Panel's Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Of course you can trust the IPCC's conclusions.....

FOXNews.com - U.N. Panel's Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away

"They are indeed receding and the rate is cause for great concern," Ramesh said of the glaciers. But, he said, the IPCC's 2035 forecast was "not based on an iota of scientific evidence."

Could they be using "tricks" to arrive at 2035 date? Let's hope they "un-recede" all on their own.

[JoeRedskin]

The IPCC is so biased in its science as to be useless. This is not the first time they have issued non-vetted, altered papers or papers with important materials deleted. Any claim they make is suspect.

Mind you, many of the reporrts and "think tanks" critiquing IPCC work are equally suspect. The science of global warming is so politicized as to be practically useless. You can pretty much find credible scientists to support any view you want to believe.

It seems to me that most credible scientists agree that the earth is warming but that there is simply no way to be sure that it is the result of human activity.