President Donald Trump?

[MTK]

And clearly, Trump isn't going to beat anyone.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Then why are so many chicken shit Republicans dropping out of the race or not running at all? That logic just don't stack up.

Like it or not, President Obama is going to be very, very hard to beat.

It's a shame that the Republican party is so bad right now. If they could produce a strong candidate, I don't think Obama would be that hard to beat at all.

[redsk1]

We need Colin Powell to step up quick.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's a shame that the Republican party is so bad right now. If they could produce a strong candidate, I don't think Obama would be that hard to beat at all.

Mmm...maybe. But look, it's not like they don't have strong candidates, because they do. There are a couple of people out there the campaign was quite nervous about: John Thune, John Huntsman, and maybe Mitch Daniels. The latter two still might run, but they don't seem to have the fire if you ask me. In time I could see Marco Rubio and loud mouth Chris Christie throwing their names in the hat, but they were just elected to office.

Truth is, they don't want none of Obama and his machine right now. Talk is cheap. If he's such a bad president put some skin in the game and let's find out. The economy will more than likely be in better shape than it is today and everything will be riding on that. Besides, Republicans have taken some very unpopular positions with regard to Medicare, Medicaid, and taxes. Harry Reid will make the Senate vote on Ryan's plan very soon and get the rest of the numbskulls on record for voting for the Ryan budget.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redsk1

We need Colin Powell to step up quick.

or David Petraeus.

It's still early, this time in the last campaign most people thought Guiliani was the guy for the Republicans

I don't want Trump running of course, Celebrity Apprentice (even regular Apprentice) is a guilty pleasure of mine. Need that show to stay on the air

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by redsk1

We need Colin Powell to step up quick.

That would be a real tough sell since he endorsed Obama over McCain. He'd never make it out of the primaries.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

or David Petraeus.

It's still early, this time in the last campaign most people thought Guiliani was the guy for the Republicans

I don't want Trump running of course, Celebrity Apprentice (even regular Apprentice) is a guilty pleasure of mine. Need that show to stay on the air

Petraeus was tapped just yesterday to run the CIA later this year. I think we can scratch that name of the list.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Truth is, they don't want none of Obama and his machine right now. Talk is cheap. If he's such a bad president put some skin in the game and let's find out. The economy will more than likely be in better shape than it is today and everything will be riding on that. Besides, Republicans have taken some very unpopular positions with regard to Medicare, Medicaid, and taxes. Harry Reid will make the Senate vote on Ryan's plan very soon and get the rest of the numbskulls on record for voting for the Ryan budget.

The numbskulls are the ones that think they can solve our national debt.....by creating more debt and devaluing the dollar.

Those "unpopular positions" are what will save those programs long-term and the American people (I'm praying) are smart enough to realize that and not buy into the left's BS of raising taxes and continuing to feed the beast with no major spending reductions or fixes to unsustainable social programs.

I wasn't going to post these, but you folks on the left need to wake up to the fact that we have real financial problems in this country (didn't you see the S&P rating) and you're side is making them terribly worse with your lack of fiscal discipline:

Chart Book Graphically Illustrates Nation’s Financial Condition | The Heritage Foundation

I haven't had the chance to read these in detail but first glance paints a pretty bad picture.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The numbskulls are the ones that think they can solve our national debt.....by creating more debt and devaluing the dollar.

Those "unpopular positions" are what will save those programs long-term and the American people (I'm praying) are smart enough to realize that and not buy into the left's BS of raising taxes and continuing to feed the beast with no major spending reductions or fixes to unsustainable social programs.

I wasn't going to post these, but you folks on the left need to wake up to the fact that we have real financial problems in this country (didn't you see the S&P rating) and you're side is making them terribly worse with your lack of fiscal discipline:

Chart Book Graphically Illustrates Nation’s Financial Condition | The Heritage Foundation

I haven't had the chance to read these in detail but first glance paints a pretty bad picture.

Thanks for the fancy chart from my friends over at Heritage. And please spare me the speech about Republicans being fiscally responsible.

The left, as you say, is keenly aware of the current debt and deficit crisis. No one's running from it or ignoring it. There are politics being played on both sides, but you can't simply cut your way out of a deficit and back to prosperity. If lowering taxes was the solution, well, didn't the last Commander in Chief pass, not one but two tax breaks for the wealthy, yet unemployment still rose and we added another trillion and a half to the deficit in the process. That along with the Medicare Drug Benefit, which wasn't paid for either, cost America roughly another trillion that we're still grappling with today. The economics are a little more complicated that that, but that's when the deficit train started to pick up speed.

So the real question isn't only what to cut, but how do we address the revenue side of the equation. Republicans feel, perhaps rightly so, that creating jobs add to the revenue pool and thus having an impact on the deficit. Okay, I can live with that. Democrats, on the other hand, as part of an overall package that have some sensible spending cuts simply want the Bush tax cuts to expire and go back to the Clinton years when the economy was humming along pretty nicely. I can buy that too. What I don't buy is the demagoguery of Democrats as spending liberals; that they don't give a hoot about the deficit, while Republicans are fiscal hawks and responsible stewards of the economy. Their voting records strongly suggest otherwise.

I guess we'll see where the debate goes in the coming days and weeks, but cutting too much, too dramatically could harm what little economic momentum we've achieved over the past 2.5 years.

[12thMan]

I guess I did call Republicans numbskulls, didn't I

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The numbskulls are the ones that think they can solve our national debt.....by creating more debt and devaluing the dollar.

Those "unpopular positions" are what will save those programs long-term and the American people (I'm praying) are smart enough to realize that and not buy into the left's BS of raising taxes and continuing to feed the beast with no major spending reductions or fixes to unsustainable social programs.

I wasn't going to post these, but you folks on the left need to wake up to the fact that we have real financial problems in this country (didn't you see the S&P rating) and you're side is making them terribly worse with your lack of fiscal discipline:

Chart Book Graphically Illustrates Nation’s Financial Condition | The Heritage Foundation

I haven't had the chance to read these in detail but first glance paints a pretty bad picture.

I love how the left somehow created this monster. laughable. the right is just as or more responsible for the current issue by far. Tax cuts are correct in most areas, but the upper tier trickle down tax cut needs to come off the board. Remember, that is not a new tax cut, it hasnt worked since its been implemented in the Bush era, keeping that mega expensive tax cut will not help and its been proven now. Corporate tax needs to come down by 10-15%. Pentagon's budget is outta control, cut that by 5-10%, its ridiculous. Why the hell wont the Right talk about that? Thats the real effing beast and a complete hypocracy by the right. Rand Paul is the only one with balls on that side to bring it up. Medicare and Medicade cuts and adjustments are needed too. The same ole bs right rhetoric of tax cuts and less spending means zero if you dont say specifics at this point.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I guess I did call Republicans numbskulls, didn't I

appropriately

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

We need Colin Powell to step up quick.

The non-existent WMD in Iraq and his spin before the UN is still on many peoples' mind who weren't propents of war. Plus he endorsed Obama. :confused:

[12thMan]

So the carnival barker has decided not to run. And after that big endorsement from Mike Huckabee yesterday.

[Chico23231]

"This decision does not come easily or without regret; especially when my potential candidacy continues to be validated by ranking at the top of the Republican contenders in polls across the country. I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election."

Im gonna miss this clown, wouldnt be surprised if he endorse Obama after all this