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Since the OWS movement has vague goals and even vaguer paths for achieving them, I have wondered how it can be brought to an end. When will people stop sitting in? For example, an anti-war movement can be ended by ending a war. But what can be given to the OWS folks to make them feel like, "We've achieved our goals"? The only proximate endpoint that I can see for the Occupy movement is the onset of cold weather.
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You know why it's not clear? THE MEDIA. They don't want to make it clear. They want to make it look like they are some rambling idiots just protesting just to protest. It's simple. 1) Criminally charge those who ran the economy/banking industry into the ground. 2) Remove corporate/wall street ties with government. 3) Tax corporations appropriately. There is no ****ing way that those assholes that ran this economy into the ground should be walking away with hundreds of millions of dollars, while sticking the American people with the bill. **** that. Arrest the criminals and send them to jail. Liquidate ALL of their assets and give it back to the people/government. The reason they aren't being tried and convicted is, they are in bed with the politicians. They are major contributors and basically set the policy at hand. The politicians aren't going to take a stand because it's biting the hand that feeds them, and many of them are making huge gains off of the very stuff they let slide.
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Profile much?
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10-20-2011, 03:52 PM | #51 |
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He thinks he's pretty ****ing cute with his lame comments (and mocking a death/slaughtering of animals), but the reality of it is he's coming off like a huge douche bag.
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Again FD, SELECTIVE EDITING. I can create any story you want by finding the exact responses and then editing them to make it look like all the people are ****ing stupid. HERP DERP! LOOK GUYS I INTERVIEWED 150 PEOPLE BUT WILL ONLY SHOW YOU 5 BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE I COULD FIND. Give me a ****ing break. This kind of shit pisses me off and it does exactly what it is supposed to. Throw guys just like YOU off on the real problem. (greedy banks and corruption) Keep you focus on the real problem at hand, not what you perceive is a bunch of jerk wads wanting free handouts. Our media reminds me much like this part in this movie. Blind them with the moon (bullshit) so they continue towing the line they want you to believe. You mean fraud isn't breaking the law? Let me quote you what friend of mine said who is in the financial industry. Quote:
Nope. Nothing wrong with this. /facepalm
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Bill Clinton's drive to increase homeownership went way too far - BusinessWeek How about Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Greg Meeks, Lacy Clay, Athur Davis Sen. Chris Dodd took millions from now-failing finance firms he oversees - latimes.com Quote:
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And so are most republicans. See what I did there?
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News Flash: They are all equally worthless. The Republicans just show it more. Sorry about the rant, but stop acting as I'm some dude toting a blue donkey flag parroting Democrat wishes.
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10-20-2011, 04:32 PM | #55 | |
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Very well said and i completely agree. Though the Tea Party did a lot to advance their cause part of it was because they got hijacked. It was originally many young libertarian minded people who fell in love with the ideas of Ron Paul over the internet and were fueled by a rebellion to a intrusive, socially conservative and fiscally irresponsible federal government under Bush fresh. Constant mocking by from the left kept many of the socially liberal people who originally shared interest with the Tea Partiers away. It grew to influential size as many social conservatives joined because of dissatisfaction from a neo-conservative big government movement in the Republican party. While the addition of social conservatives gave the Tea Party movement organization and influence it also fundamentally changed it. I think something similar could happen with OWS, although besides the Unions I don’t really know any faction of the Democratic party that has the capability to organize non-race specific groups. Unfortunately the media on the right has spent a lot of time mocking these people just like the left did with tea partiers. While the originally tea parties shared a lot of common ground with social liberals many in the media ended up spoiling that relationship, and unfortunately it looks it may be same in the reverse situation…..
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i do believe the current financial structure is out of whack. im sure a bunch of rich guys are getting richer on govt passed policies that make us working class people more in debt.
i hate the fact that over the next 30 years i am going to repay what? 1 million dollars for a 200k home loan . . . but im too tired and busy working to stop and look around. let alone think anything will be done about it. US economy = working class in debt. it just is what it is. atleast they give us football on sundays and cold beers during happy hour. im going to be dirving by the occupy balitmore a few times tonight, if i see anything noteworthy ill post it. mayeb ill run up to one of their tents and get a pic of me pissing on it? yay? nay? edit - got another denial in the email again today. before when i had dirty pee i was invited to interviews, now that i got clean pee i cant get one. the next employer who denies me im goign to go and pee on their front door handle at night. eff employers with their policy of no thank you!
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No, I look at pictures.
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Lol, NC_Skins. First things first, just what in the code did they violate? You can't charge someone with a crime without identifying the crime first.
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AW, so based on a few pictures and image the media wants to portray you will generalize on an entire movement? Nice. Ever heard of a significant statistical sample?
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(1) Cite me the specific criminal statutes violated by specific individuals. Not some generic bull sh**. Facts & laws - specifics. When, where and how? Who, specifically, committed what specific crimes? Before you start depriving individuals of their liberty, I would suggest they are entitled to a little due process of the law. If those "who ran the economy/banking industry into the ground" did so out of epically bad judgment rather than through specific criminal actions - does the OWS still support criminal sanctions? I, for one, don't support a movement that would suggest we allow the retroactive imposition of criminal penalties for actions not deemed criminal at the time they were taken. Seems to me a bad, bad precedent. (2, 3) So tax corporations and take property from their investors but don't let those self-same investors have a voice in government through the corporate entity. More simply, tax but allow no representation - seems to me that was the underlying theme of some other revolution in history. Quote:
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Ultimately, with corporations, there is inherent conflict/disconnect between the need for and purpose of a corporation's legal existence and the proper functioning of a free market. Corporations exist to pool resources and protect individuals from personal liability which allows for greater risk and larger investment. At the same time, in doing so, the corporate entity shields managers from suffering the same penalty the corporation suffers for bad investments - loss of value. It is this disconnect that allows these large corporations to make dumb, risky investments while having the managers profit regardless of whether or not the corporation wins or loses. If the OWS really wants to change things then, as the Tea Party has done, create a specific agenda that addresses the real inequities and market dysfunction of corporate law as it applies to large corporations. Find a way to preserve the real and needed protections of the corporate structure while at the same time creating a practical market accountability for managers who exercise poor judgment. I suggest to you that the devil is in the details and that screaming "Corporations are bad" is ineffective, counter-productive and, mostly, just plain stupid.
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