RGIII Heisman Winner

SFREDSKIN · 12-11-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Are they not QBs in the league? Why wouldn't they count?

I'm comparing him to second tier or young QB's, not solid experienced stars. People have been ripping Sanchez, I think he's doing a good job.

Dirtbag59 · 12-12-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

I understand and partially agree with what you're saying but this hasn't been the case lately. If Tim Tebow never would of won the Heisman ESPN and everyone else wouldn't have sensationalized him to the degree that they did. The same can be said for Matt Leinert. No way would he would of been a top 10 pick if he didn't win the Heisman. Now that the media has gone into hype overdrive Robert Griffin will be the most talked about pick next to Luck, infact this whole draft season will be comparing the 2 non-stop and everyone will give their opinions as to who should draft who and why. It's going to be the lead in story for months to come just you wait.

I'd say Tebow was a first round pick because he made Josh McDaniels fall in love with his intangibles and work ethic. Keep in mind Tebow was a college God before he won the Heisman. The ceremony was just a formality.

Matt Leinart on the other hand got picked in the first because he played extremely well in a pro style offense and was a major part in USC winning many big games (which is what got him the Heisman). On top of that Carson Palmer was coming off a pro bowl season, which to some scouts meant that SC's offense prepared QB's for the NFL. Obviously hind sight is 20-20 but on draft day few saw the captain check down party boy surrounded by blue chip talent.

12thMan · 12-12-2011, 01:32 PM

Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.

tc2deuce · 12-12-2011, 01:36 PM

just look at RGIII background and any team would be sold on him!

Dirtbag59 · 12-12-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.

From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.

skinsfaninok · 12-13-2011, 12:08 PM

Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now

freddyg12 · 12-13-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.

Dirt, tryin to get someone to take this bait, huh?

12thMan · 12-13-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now

True that.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-13-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.

Brilliant. LOL

bigdaddy2348 · 12-13-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

My question to the forum would be Barkley or RGIII

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Originally Posted by r08kessl

RGIII by a mile. I would rather see us take a chance on someone that could be incredibly special than using a pick on a QB that's surrounded by first round talent from a program that has a history of producing QB's with overrated NFL potential.

I agree with both quotes. I would like to see who the people want between the two QBs. I would rather see us with RGIII. I don’t trust USC QB's. Palmer is probably the last decent QB they have produced.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-13-2011, 03:03 PM

I would rather have RGIII also. Take a chance on him. So what if he doesn't "fit" the system right away. Tailor your gameplan to his strengths and watch him shine.

skinsfaninok · 12-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would rather have RGIII also. Take a chance on him. So what if he doesn't "fit" the system right away. Tailor your gameplan to his strengths and watch him shine.

this

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-13-2011, 03:12 PM

i think that is the first time we have agreed 100% on something.

skinsfaninok · 12-13-2011, 03:16 PM

LOL Just like Skip and Stephen A Smith

skinsfaninok · 12-13-2011, 03:17 PM

We have to take RGIII if he's there, Why in the world would a team DESPERATE for a QB for decades pass on a Legit Baller at the position? I'd be super pissed if we passed on him

12-12-2011, 01:32 PM	#48
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving. That said.. If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter. I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.

12-12-2011, 01:36 PM	#49
tc2deuce Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 363	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner just look at RGIII background and any team would be sold on him!

12-13-2011, 12:08 PM	#51
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,137	Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-13-2011, 03:03 PM	#56
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,167	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner I would rather have RGIII also. Take a chance on him. So what if he doesn't "fit" the system right away. Tailor your gameplan to his strengths and watch him shine. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

12-13-2011, 03:12 PM	#58
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,167	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner i think that is the first time we have agreed 100% on something. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

12-13-2011, 03:16 PM	#59
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,137	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner LOL Just like Skip and Stephen A Smith __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-13-2011, 03:17 PM	#60
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,137	Re: RGIII Heisman Winner We have to take RGIII if he's there, Why in the world would a team DESPERATE for a QB for decades pass on a Legit Baller at the position? I'd be super pissed if we passed on him __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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