NFLPA Files Collusion Lawsuit Against NFL, Owners

[SBXVII]

Joe,

You think the NFLPA would say they were blackmailed or forced to take the deal? Now that they have positive proof through Mara's own statements that now they believe there was collusion and this is why the filing?

More then likely the NFLPA waited to see what new info would get produced but I still wonder if the Skins and or Boys will be the major witness in the case and if the two owners possibly agreed to be the witnesses.... but make it seem like they are hostile witnesses so the rest of the league believes they are being run through the mud also.

I'm telling you DS/JJ gave up too easily. Yesterday I was pissed and only figured they would be pissed also. They were too relaxed and calm with their "we are going to take are punishement" statement. They must have knew something like this was about to be sprung.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Joe, You think the NFLPA would say they were blackmailed or forced to take the deal? Now that they have positive proof through Mara's own statements that now they believe there was collusion and this is why the filing?

That is exactly what they are saying:

28. Shortly before March 12, 2012, the NFL forced the NFLPA to agree (i) to material, NFL-determined reductions in the Redskins’ and Cowboys’ salary cap room for the 2012-2013 seasons, and (ii) to spread the corresponding amounts among all other Clubs, except for the Raiders and the Saints, as the take-it-or-leave-it “price” for the NFL agreeing to the NFLPA’s request to defer certain player benefit costs to later years when there would be increased television revenues to cover those costs. At the time, on March 11, 2012, the NFLPA and the players had no information or knowledge that the NFL was seeking this redistribution of salary cap room as a means of (i) penalizing the Redskins and Cowboys, and to a lesser degree the Raiders and Saints (via denied redistribution), for not fully abiding by the Collusive Agreement in 2010 and (ii) rewarding the other 28 conspiring Clubs for adhering to the Collusive Agreement in 2010. It was only after the NFL forced the NFLPA into this March 11, 2012 agreement that the NFL’s and the Owners’ collusive acts regarding the secret salary cap during 2010 finally came to light.

http://www.realredskins.com/files/nflpa-suit.pdf

Read the complaint folks. Lots of good stuff in it.

[JoeRedskin]

The arbitrator very clearly said that the case was dismissed b/c the NFL and NFLPA agreed to the reallocation of salary cap. To reopen the arbitration case, I would imagine the NFLPA would have to repudate their ratification of the March Modification. Even if that is possible, I don't see them taking that step - mainly b/c the NFL would then set each team's cap lower (except the skins and cowboys) and a lot of players would be cut or have to renegotiate.

[Evilgrin]

I just read an article that said they(nflpa) may claim they agreed to it, because ultimately it proved collusion occurred.

On a sidenote, I think the players are really thinking they didn't get such a good deal now.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

I just read an article that said they(nflpa) may claim they agreed to it, because ultimately it proved collusion occurred.

On a sidenote, I think the players are really thinking they didn't get such a good deal now.

Well if the NFLPA reprsents the players then I don't see how they could claim collusion if they knew about the agreed cap.

[SBXVII]

I love this....

The agreement reads that the "parties stipulate to the dismissal with prejudice of all claims, known and unknown, whether pending or not" including "asserted collusion with respect to the 2010 league year," and was signed by Kessler. Kessler said on the NFLPA's conference call on Wednesday that a Minnesota court rejected the stipulation.

On Aug. 11, 2011, Judge David Doty "ordered that all claims pending regarding the stipulation and settlement agreement are dismissed. All other outstanding motions are dismissed," according to a court order. Kessler said Doty's specification on "pending" cases left the door open for cases that were not pending, such as the current collusion case

Who knows the judge might have helped them in this case. lol.

[SBXVII]

I can see the case now.....

NFLPA: "We would like to call our first witness, the Redskins."
Skins: "What do we recall about any agreed CAP limit?"
NFL: "We'd like to take a recess your honor".

NFL to Skins: "ok, we'll give you all your CAP back."

Skins: "your honor, we really don't recall any set limit mentioned".


LOL.

[SmootSmack]

NFL - Many layers to NFLPA collusion case - ESPN

[FRPLG]

The mere notion that either the Skins or Cowboys will rat in open court about this is silly. The NFLPA is suing for 1 BILLION dollars and asking for treble damages which could mean 3 BILLION dollars. That's money that will come straight out of JJ's and DS's pockets. Aint gonna happen.

[skinsfan69]

All these lawsuits are getting annoying.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

All these lawsuits are getting annoying.

?

What other law suits are you talking about. The whole mess is getting annoying ...yes. I agree. But I think its funny. This is like understanding all the behind the scene's going ons with WWE. lol. One big soap opera.

But in reality there has only been one law suit. The NFLPA vs. NFL. Ours was just an appeal to the punishment, and it really wasn't the punishment but rather the process/proceedure that led to the punishment.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

?

What other law suits are you talking about. The whole mess is getting annoying ...yes. I agree. But I think its funny. This is like understanding all the behind the scene's going ons with WWE. lol. One big soap opera.

But in reality there has only been one law suit. The NFLPA vs. NFL. Ours was just an appeal to the punishment, and it really wasn't the punishment but rather the process/proceedure that led to the punishment.

All the concussion lawsuits, Vilma, this one....just so tired of it.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

All these lawsuits are getting annoying.

The Goodell Dictatorship with no regard to actual rules is getting annoying.


Don't blame those bringing these lawsuits (except the concussion claimants like Chip Lohmiller)...blame the man who is making these lawsuits absolutely necessary. I think Vilma may have a case. What was done to us and Dallas was completely absurd.

So sick of hearing about us "violating the spirit of the rule" that wasn't even in place at the time. This is like us getting pulled over for 35MPH and ticketed because they're planning on changing the sign to 25MPH next month, so they're getting a head start on catching the speeders.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

The Goodell Dictatorship with no regard to actual rules is getting annoying.


Don't blame those bringing these lawsuits (except the concussion claimants like Chip Lohmiller)...blame the man who is making these lawsuits absolutely necessary. I think Vilma may have a case. What was done to us and Dallas was completely absurd.

So sick of hearing about us "violating the spirit of the rule" that wasn't even in place at the time. This is like us getting pulled over for 35MPH and ticketed because they're planning on changing the sign to 25MPH next month, so they're getting a head start on catching the speeders.

I agree. The commish is a first class two faced dick. The owners are greedy bastards for putting in a BS cap in an up capped year. Not all, but a lot of the former players are suing to get their pockets a little fatter cause they see all the money the NFL makes. All the BS crappy calls we see week after week cause of the trickle down concussion awareness. I love the NFL.... but lately, especially this past year, all of this crap is really starting to turn me off.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

The Goodell Dictatorship with no regard to actual rules is getting annoying.


Don't blame those bringing these lawsuits (except the concussion claimants like Chip Lohmiller)...blame the man who is making these lawsuits absolutely necessary. I think Vilma may have a case. What was done to us and Dallas was completely absurd.

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I don't know how this is going to work out but people need to sepereate this from the actuall runnning of the league ,one is business ...let it go to court.Vilma has more to do with the way the NFL is being run and yes that is Goodell and it's morons like Vilma and Greg Williams that screw it up and on the other side you have the players who want to sue for billions becuase of concussions yet will take the NFL to court for making them wear thigh pads and knee pads and bitch about making the game safer but sue later when they can't walk and blame the NFL.