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Old 09-17-2012, 04:08 PM   #1
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:56 PM   #2
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So...where do we look to fill the two open roster spots? Actually, I think there should be three spots open i.e. Banks has no place on an NFL roster.

Given Garcon's lagging injury and questionable recovery, Morgan not cutting it as a starter, and Robinson struggling to catch the long ball, I would definitely bring in a WR at this point. Plaxico would immediately be our best endzone target.

On defense, really nobody can replace Rak, but we probably need to bolster the roster with depth...?
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:59 PM   #3
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So...where do we look to fill the two open roster spots? Actually, I think there should be three spots open i.e. Banks has no place on an NFL roster.

Given Garcon's lagging injury and questionable recovery, Morgan not cutting it as a starter, and Robinson struggling to catch the long ball, I would definitely bring in a WR at this point. Plaxico would immediately be our best endzone target.

On defense, really nobody can replace Rak, but we probably need to bolster the roster with depth...?
How on earth are you questioning Morgan and Robinson. Both are VERY good wide receivers. WR is one place where we dont need to add anyone. Its easily our deepest, most talented position group.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:20 PM   #4
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How on earth are you questioning Morgan and Robinson. Both are VERY good wide receivers. WR is one place where we dont need to add anyone. Its easily our deepest, most talented position group.
QB is the most talented position group. After that I don't know...maybe a tie between a lot of mediocrity. But specific to WR neither Morgan nor Robinson are legit starters i.e. neither will be a regular starter for another franchise in the NFL. Robinson is a decent route runner but lacks speed and seems to get lost downfield. Also, he's not breaking tackles. Morgan has the physical gifts to be a starter but doesn't have the football IQ of a starter.

Garcon is a starter, but what a meant earlier is this foot injury is likely to linger...they often do
Hankerson should start IMO and Moss in the slot. But if Garcon isn't healthy enough to be effective there's room for a legit starter. I think that guy should replace Banks btw.

At the same time we need to bolster the defense with today's injury news. I just don't think Carter is the answer...who else is out there?

Edit: LB is probably the most talented (after QB) like another said. London is the man. Kerrigan is now the 2nd best player on defense. Riley and the new starter need to step up!!
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QB is the most talented position group. After that I don't know...maybe a tie between a lot of mediocrity. But specific to WR neither Morgan nor Robinson are legit starters i.e. neither will be a regular starter for another franchise in the NFL. Robinson is a decent route runner but lacks speed and seems to get lost downfield. Also, he's not breaking tackles. Morgan has the physical gifts to be a starter but doesn't have the football IQ of a starter.

Garcon is a starter, but what a meant earlier is this foot injury is likely to linger...they often do
Hankerson should start IMO and Moss in the slot. But if Garcon isn't healthy enough to be effective there's room for a legit starter. I think that guy should replace Banks btw.

At the same time we need to bolster the defense with today's injury news. I just don't think Carter is the answer...who else is out there?
Robinson lacks speed? Are we talking about the same guy?
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:25 PM   #6
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Robinson lacks speed? Are we talking about the same guy?
Robinson ran a 4.4 at the combine, speed is clearly not an issue.

Goat thinks Garcon lacks speed too, keep that in mind.
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Robinson lacks speed? Are we talking about the same guy?
Yeah, I thought he was supposed to be a burner too!? I noticed the ball he caught over the middle yesterday he couldn't beat the one defender (safety I think) on the outside. The downfield bomb made him look open because he got lost lol, not because he outran anybody.

Good route runner though quicker than he is fast, I could see him in the slot next year if Tana is gone.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:25 PM   #8
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QB is the most talented position group. After that I don't know...maybe a tie between a lot of mediocrity. But specific to WR neither Morgan nor Robinson are legit starters i.e. neither will be a regular starter for another franchise in the NFL. Robinson is a decent route runner but lacks speed and seems to get lost downfield. Also, he's not breaking tackles. Morgan has the physical gifts to be a starter but doesn't have the football IQ of a starter.

Garcon is a starter, but what a meant earlier is this foot injury is likely to linger...they often do
Hankerson should start IMO and Moss in the slot. But if Garcon isn't healthy enough to be effective there's room for a legit starter. I think that guy should replace Banks btw.

At the same time we need to bolster the defense with today's injury news. I just don't think Carter is the answer...who else is out there?

Edit: LB is probably the most talented (after QB) like another said. London is the man. Kerrigan is now the 2nd best player on defense. Riley and the new starter need to step up!!

Robinson doesnt lack speed, i will give you he looked lost down field on the pass he dropped.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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QB is the most talented position group. After that I don't know...maybe a tie between a lot of mediocrity. But specific to WR neither Morgan nor Robinson are legit starters i.e. neither will be a regular starter for another franchise in the NFL. Robinson is a decent route runner but lacks speed and seems to get lost downfield. Also, he's not breaking tackles. Morgan has the physical gifts to be a starter but doesn't have the football IQ of a starter.

Garcon is a starter, but what a meant earlier is this foot injury is likely to linger...they often do
Hankerson should start IMO and Moss in the slot. But if Garcon isn't healthy enough to be effective there's room for a legit starter. I think that guy should replace Banks btw.

At the same time we need to bolster the defense with today's injury news. I just don't think Carter is the answer...who else is out there?

Edit: LB is probably the most talented (after QB) like another said. London is the man. Kerrigan is now the 2nd best player on defense. Riley and the new starter need to step up!!
There is no way you can justify QB being our deepest and most talented position. After Griffin, you've got a a COMPLETE UKNOWN in cousins and COMPLETELY HORRIBLE player in grossman.

You know you have good depth when you starter leaves Thr game and you don't miss a beat. We've experienced that with WR and, to a lesser degree, LB. If you want to say QB is our deepest position, then explain to me how you k ow the drop off from griffin to cousins to grossman is less significant than the drop off from garçon to Robinson to hankerson.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #10
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There is no way you can justify QB being our deepest and most talented position. After Griffin, you've got a a COMPLETE UKNOWN in cousins and COMPLETELY HORRIBLE player in grossman.

You know you have good depth when you starter leaves Thr game and you don't miss a beat. We've experienced that with WR and, to a lesser degree, LB. If you want to say QB is our deepest position, then explain to me how you k ow the drop off from griffin to cousins to grossman is less significant than the drop off from garçon to Robinson to hankerson.
RGIII (alone) makes QB the most talented position group IMO. Cousins looked good in preseason so that's something. LB group is definitely talented.

I think we did miss Garcon yesterday. Don't remember seeing any of our WRs break a tackle for extra yards.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:24 PM   #11
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Given Garcon's lagging injury and questionable recovery, Morgan not cutting it as a starter, and Robinson struggling to catch the long ball, I would definitely bring in a WR at this point. Plaxico would immediately be our best endzone target.

He dropped one god damn ball? Does that constitute struggling? Sweet baby jesus man....lol


Lost 2 defensive players and you want to bring in a old burnt out WR??


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Old 09-17-2012, 03:58 PM   #12
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Dammit. Orakpo and the training staff really need to refocus on flexibility. Two muscle tears in two seasons. I get it, strength is important for football players, but doesn't help much if the muscles aren't flexible enough to prevent tearing.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:00 PM   #13
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Good teams have depth. In year 3 of the Shannahan era I dont think the skins have the depth they need to weather these storms. I am hoping for big things from Jenkins, Rak is a huge loss.
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