Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread

[SmootSmack]

He practiced today and seemed fine. If the doctors clear him to play then he should play.

[skinsguy]

Since the season is obviously over with a 2-3 record and 11 more games to play, maybe we should just sit RGIII out the rest of the season. Heck, we might want to sit him next year too just to make sure.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Since the season is obviously over with a 2-3 record and 11 more games to play, maybe we should just sit RGIII out the rest of the season. Heck, we might want to sit him next year too just to make sure.

We should probably just forfeit the rest of our games to make sure no one else gets hurt either.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Since the season is obviously over with a 2-3 record and 11 more games to play, maybe we should just sit RGIII out the rest of the season. Heck, we might want to sit him next year too just to make sure.

I concur, we should sit him till we have another 1st round pick. Can't wait to see RGIII in 2015.

I actually originally thought he should sit right after the game/Monday but everything we hear is that he is fine and doing well. Play 'em, and tell him to get the hell out of bounds.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Because we are not doctors, and if they doctor says he can play, then he can play.

Understand MD. 44ever?

LOL Season over after 5 games.... We win this week, we will most likely be playing for 1st in the NFCE next week..Yes, the season is over!!!!

And than we can rest rg-3 since grossman has the giants number.


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[MTK]

If he's cleared to play by the independent doctors, then by all means he should play. Let's stop with the armchair neurologist stuff.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If he's cleared to play by the independent doctors, then by all means he should play. Let's stop with the armchair neurologist stuff.

I'm starting a medical fantasy league, you in?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm starting a medical fantasy league, you in?

[punch it in]

Im not a real armchair neurologist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last nite.


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[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im not a real armchair neurologist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last nite.


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Excellent. Where were all these nuerologists or the profession of nuerology when players from yesterdays can't even tie there shoes now? I'm sure they would have given them the OK to play too after 3 or 4 days and could tell the doctor how many fingers he was holding up. It's a miracle they now know it all and clear someone to play 7 days later.Maybe if some of the people who are so sure he should play got their brain scrambled or had this happen to their son and forgot what the score and time was they may not be so ready and arrogant to volunteer RG3 to play seven days later.

Ask Brian Dawkins how he feels about it. Someone who knows more about this than anyone on this board when doctors who cleared him to play when in fact Brian said he wasn't ready to play. I'll take his word since he has been cleared to play by doctors when he knew he shouldn't have been cleared.

RG3 just had a brain injury and now 4 days later everything is just fine. Doctors are all knowing now. They know everything there is to know about the brain now. Sometimes I forget. I wonder if these same doctors would clear their son to play so soon? I highly doubt it.

I might be wrong. But I doubt it. I doubt Brian Dawkins is wrong either.
This is just the reason we drafted Kirk Cousins for when some say we shouldn't have. I think a week off is better than none.

If he hurts his leg or arm then take him out since you can see that but if he hurts his brain screw him. He'll be just fine. Be tough and go get em now RG3.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Excellent. Where were all these nuerologists or the profession of nuerology when players from yesterdays can't even tie there shoes now? I'm sure they would have given them the OK to play too after 3 or 4 days and could tell the doctor how many fingers he was holding up. It's a miracle they now know it all and clear someone to play 7 days later.Maybe if some of the people who are so sure he should play got their brain scrambled or had this happen to their son and forgot what the score and time was they may not be so ready and arrogant to volunteer RG3 to play seven days later.

Ask Brian Dawkins how he feels about it. Someone who knows more about this than anyone on this board when doctors who cleared him to play when in fact Brian said he wasn't ready to play. I'll take his word since he has been cleared to play by doctors when he knew he shouldn't have been cleared.

RG3 just had a brain injury and now 4 days later everything is just fine. Doctors are all knowing now. They know everything there is to know about the brain now. Sometimes I forget. I wonder if these same doctors would clear their son to play so soon? I highly doubt it.

I might be wrong. But I doubt it. I doubt Brian Dawkins is wrong either.
This is just the reason we drafted Kirk Cousins for when some say we shouldn't have. I think a week off is better than none.

If he hurts his leg or arm then take him out since you can see that but if he hurts his brain screw him. He'll be just fine. Be tough and go get em now RG3.

From someone who has worked in the construction industry for plenty of his life. From someone who knows people first hand that have destroyed their bodies building houses. From someone who has desperately needed surgery but never had it because months off from work means months off from eating.

Guess what... If you knew my or my friends problems, would you throw your kids out on the streets and say houses are bad because the people building them are hurting themselves? and not making millions per year to do so.

Are you honestly going to force being homeless on people because its bad that someone like me has a messed up shoulder and back for life, all from building you a place to live? Or does you having a place to live all of a sudden mean im worthless among the grand picture and my daughter not having a father is perfectly fine for you? Who cares if I destroy myself so you can be comfortable... Right?

As cold as this is going to sound. No one is required to play football. That doesnt mean treat them like animals, but it does mean they have to actually play the game at some point to get paid. Everyone of them knows the problems later in life. Im sure most of them already know of some of those problems they could have destroying their body at a fraction of the pay as well in construction or some other industry, ask anyone who used to work with Asbestos years ago.

So when you kick your kids to the streets to fend for themselves because living indoors causes your empathy meter to jump through the roof, then complain about the NFL. Until then, accept that people like me, in an attempt to feed and house our own families, have destroyed our bodies for your own personal pleasure. The same thing that you are claiming we shouldnt do. After all, our families being fed arent good enough reasons apparently to make money for, according to you.

Moral of the story: A lot of people damage themselves in every day life. They do it for money, fame, whatever reason. I would love every occupation to have zero negative health effects, but that isnt reasonable to expect. What can be done is to try and minimize that damage, but other than that...

Bleeding heart yourself about football all day long, just dont forget that a lot of what you use in every day life required blood sweat and tears to bring to your house for your comfort. By the way, cell phone towers are really tall. People have fallen from them setting up and maintaining cell phone towers. You support giving up cell phone use? After all, those towers need constant maintenance, if we use cell phones. We force a job into society. Which is climbing a thousand feet in the sky. And people will fall and die. You against cell phones now? I could be wrong but falling a thousand feet to your death is a lot worse than getting a concussion. And you get paid a lot less to fall to your death than you do to get a concussion in the NFL. I would rather risk concussions in the NFL for 100 times the pay if you really want the truth. Im sure all of you do as well.

Sounds cold, but reality a lot of times is. Of course all of you already know the cold reality of football players. Yet where will you be on Sunday? Rooting on RG3. If you are against RG3 playing... dont watch. If you are against people hurting themselves for your pleasure. Dont watch football, destroy your house and become homeless, and toss your cell phone in the trash... Among multiple other things.

With my body the way it is as someone who is only in his forties and knowing the dangers of the NFL. I would change out my pay and damage done to my body for the pay and damage from the NFL in a second...

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

From someone who has worked in the construction industry for plenty of his life. From someone who knows people first hand that have destroyed their bodies building houses. From someone who has desperately needed surgery but never had it because months off from work means months off from eating.

Guess what... If you knew my or my friends problems, would you throw your kids out on the streets and say houses are bad because the people building them are hurting themselves? and not making millions per year to do so.

Are you honestly going to force being homeless on people because its bad that someone like me has a messed up shoulder and back for life, all from building you a place to live? Or does you having a place to live all of a sudden mean im worthless among the grand picture and my daughter not having a father is perfectly fine for you? Who cares if I destroy myself so you can be comfortable... Right?

As cold as this is going to sound. No one is required to play football. That doesnt mean treat them like animals, but it does mean they have to actually play the game at some point to get paid. Everyone of them knows the problems later in life. Im sure most of them already know of some of those problems they could have destroying their body at a fraction of the pay as well in construction or some other industry, ask anyone who used to work with Asbestos years ago.

So when you kick your kids to the streets to fend for themselves because living indoors causes your empathy meter to jump through the roof, then complain about the NFL. Until then, accept that people like me, in an attempt to feed and house our own families, have destroyed our bodies for your own personal pleasure. The same thing that you are claiming we shouldnt do. After all, our families being fed arent good enough reasons apparently to make money for, according to you.

Moral of the story: A lot of people damage themselves in every day life. They do it for money, fame, whatever reason. I would love every occupation to have zero negative health effects, but that isnt reasonable to expect. What can be done is to try and minimize that damage, but other than that...

Bleeding heart yourself about football all day long, just dont forget that a lot of what you use in every day life required blood sweat and tears to bring to your house for your comfort. By the way, cell phone towers are really tall. People have fallen from them setting up and maintaining cell phone towers. You support giving up cell phone use? After all, those towers need constant maintenance, if we use cell phones. We force a job into society. Which is climbing a thousand feet in the sky. And people will fall and die. You against cell phones now? I could be wrong but falling a thousand feet to your death is a lot worse than getting a concussion. And you get paid a lot less to fall to your death than you do to get a concussion in the NFL. I would rather risk concussions in the NFL for 100 times the pay if you really want the truth. Im sure all of you do as well.

Sounds cold, but reality a lot of times is. Of course all of you already know the cold reality of football players. Yet where will you be on Sunday? Rooting on RG3. If you are against RG3 playing... dont watch. If you are against people hurting themselves for your pleasure. Dont watch football, destroy your house and become homeless, and toss your cell phone in the trash... Among multiple other things.

With my body the way it is as someone who is only in his forties and knowing the dangers of the NFL. I would change out my pay and damage done to my body for the pay and damage from the NFL in a second...

Two different animals. Brain injury and sore muscles are two different pies. RG3 isn't going to lose his job if he doesn't play because of a concussion. Let's get that straight right off the bat. I don't mean to sound arrogant if I do but that is a fact for sure. Lots of teams would take him and want him if he did not play. if he is careful with a brain injury he can play longer and make a lot more money than a short time payday. A hip flexor or stinger are something you can play thru. A brain injury not so easy. Aches and pains are one thing a brain injury is a total different thing. I watch to see them or hope they win. They chose this career and they get paid lots of money. I would do also if I could but if RG3 plays thats his decision. Why would I not watch? That is a silly solution for wanting someone to take it easy for a week. Let's be real instead of going down some don't watch if you do not like it tangeant that is just silly. I think you have missed the point entirely. His injury isn't a pulled groin.

Tell Dale Earnhardt Jr. that argument if you feel so strongly about it. Although the scenario is a bit different and others could be hurt as well I guarantee Dale knows that he should take it easy instead of risking further injury and will still have a job although he doesn't race now or next week. He is sitting out the next few races because of guess what? A concussion. He wants to race long term by sitting out now. Same as RG3 if he wanted could sit out now to play long term which means more money. Your argument says that he wouldn't make more money because of not playing now. Just not true. Eventually it's his decision. But maybe it shouldn't be.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Two different animals. Brain injury and sore muscles are two different pies. RG3 isn't going to lose his job if he doesn't play because of a concussion. Let's get that straight right off the bat. I don't mean to sound arrogant if I do but that is a fact for sure. Lots of teams would take him and want him if he did not play. if he is careful with a brain injury he can play longer and make a lot more money than a short time payday. A hip flexor or stinger are something you can play thru. A brain injury not so easy. Aches and pains are one thing a brain injury is a total different thing. I watch to see them or hope they win. They chose this career and they get paid lots of money. I would do also if I could but if RG3 plays thats his decision. Why would I not watch? That is a silly solution for wanting someone to take it easy for a week. Let's be real instead of going down some don't watch if you do not like it tangeant that is just silly. I think you have missed the point entirely. His injury isn't a pulled groin.

Tell Dale Earnhardt Jr. that argument if you feel so strongly about it. Although the scenario is a bit different and others could be hurt as well I guarantee Dale knows that he should take it easy instead of risking further injury and will still have a job although he doesn't race now or next week. He is sitting out the next few races because of guess what? A concussion. He wants to race long term by sitting out now. Same as RG3 if he wanted could sit out now to play long term which means more money. Your argument says that he wouldn't make more money because of not playing now. Just not true. Eventually it's his decision. But maybe it shouldn't be.

Part of the problem is you call injuries as sore muscles and blow them off since its not people you know. There is nothing sore about a muscle after working 20 years in construction or a similar profession that requires that type of work. These are people that can no longer function in jobs, and have trouble in life, due to debilitating injuries. People that live with sons and daughters because otherwise they would be homeless since they can no longer work to support themselves.

Where you talk about arrogance, Its an unconscious arrogance, so somewhat forgivable (Of society, not meaning your arrogance specifically). If that unknown guy falls from the cell phone tower, it sucks, but it ultimately doesnt affect you since you dont know them. That 45 year old who can no longer work, that spent his life working his fingers to the bone, that no one has to hear about except his family having to take care of them. However, Athletes on your favorite team, well, you know them. Not personally, but all the media exposure makes it seem like we do. We want to protect them like family.

My point still stands... Keep protecting Dale Earnhardt Jr and RG3, while calling those people that damaged their bodies to the same degree as having a sore muscle and otherwise are just being babies. You actually proved my point.

Btw, things happen in construction sites or other places that cause concussions. But let that cable guy miss an appointment window on Monday from a concussion over the weekend, and all of a sudden long term effects of concussions are less of a concern than rescheduling the cable guy.

[scowan]

Washington Redskins -- Robert Griffin III practicing, cleared to play vs. Minnesota Vikings - ESPN

[The Goat]

It makes me a little nervous he's playing, but I tend to think it wasn't really a concussion in the first place anyway.