This Skins Stat Says A Lot About Us

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Thank you. All this stat illustrates is how competitive the NFL is -- where one of the lesser teams (us) manages to keep a lot of games interesting.

Exactly. The league has done everything in it's power to create parity since the days of Rozelle. All GM's and HC's are not the same. Some know how to build and coach better than others. Some owners are better equipped and have the ego to turn things over to those who are more qualified to run a team. Consistently losing close games is not much of an endorsement for a franchise. Especially the longer it goes on. BTW.....Your sig may be my all time favorite.

[mredskins]

Here you go thread closed:

NFL's Circle of Parity

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This tells me that we are a great team that can't seem to finish games. We know how to be competitive, but we just don't have that extra push from either our players or our coaches or both.

it tells me the opposite. Great teams finish games, great team don't lose close games they win by blowout.

[Monkeydad]

Makes it sound like we're a lot better than our bad record indicates!

[mredskins]

Basically when the day is done the Skins over the past decade have been a bad franchise. If you helps you sleep better at night that a lot of games were close so be it, but we are still a bad franchise.

"Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."- Dom

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Basically when the day is done the Skins over the past decade have been a bad franchise. If you helps you sleep better at night that a lot of games were close so be it, but we are still a bad franchise.

"Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."- Dom

The Redskins have been a bad team because under Snyder's ownership the team has mostly been a damn circus. 7 head coaches in 12 years. Firing Norv Turner when the Redskins were still in playoff contention, firing Marty Schottenheimer after a dramatic turnaround, hiring Steve Spurrier who was not qualified to be a head coach in the NFL, and hiring Zorn as an offensive coordinator with no head coach and then giving him head coaching duties that he wasn't qualified for. It's all decisions like these that have held this franchise back.

Thanks a lot, Mr. Snyder. While the Steelers, Giants, and Patriots play in Super Bowls year after year we Redskins fans are buried deep in our own crap because of the decisions of Daniel Snyder.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins have been a bad team because under Snyder's ownership the team has mostly been a damn circus. 7 head coaches in 12 years. Firing Norv Turner when the Redskins were still in playoff contention, firing Marty Schottenheimer after a dramatic turnaround, hiring Steve Spurrier who was not qualified to be a head coach in the NFL, and hiring Zorn as an offensive coordinator with no head coach and then giving him head coaching duties that he wasn't qualified for. It's all decisions like these that have held this franchise back.

Thanks a lot, Mr. Snyder. While the Steelers, Giants, and Patriots play in Super Bowls year after year we Redskins fans are buried deep in our own crap because of the decisions of Daniel Snyder.

Always the easy thing to do, just blame Snyder

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Always the easy thing to do, just blame Snyder

You played for this team once. A lot of this franchise's mediocrity can be traced to Daniel Snyder. The decisions he's made has had a bad impact on what's happened on the field. The only thing he did right was beg Joe Gibbs to come out of retirement and with that, the Redskins went to the playoffs 2 out of the 4 years Gibbs with coaching the Redskins again.

But even when Gibbs stepped down the head coaching vacancy should have gone to Greg Williams but Snyder even fouled that up too. Of course Vinny Cerrato has played a hand by making stupid trades, being incompetent by selecting bad draft choices, and allowing top notch safeties such as Ryan Clark to hit the open market.

But who's the moron who fired Charley Casserly in favor of Cerrato in the first place? That's whose fault it is then.

[InsaneBoost]

Think this can be a bit deceiving. A lot of games we only were close in (besides really last year) because defenses go to prevent which allows us to drive easier. The other ones, that we were in, of course, are because the team STILL doesn't play for four full quarters.

[MTK]

Losing is losing anyway you look at it.

There's no style points for coming close.

[Mechanix544]

Last I remembered, Clark wasn't an all world safety when he played here, nor is he one with the Steelers. Good player, yes, but I guess with our current situation, a move made over 7 years ago still shouldn't be a reason for our abysmal situation.

He only had 3 interceptions over his first four years, and some questioned his tackling, which was one of the reasons the Giants let him go. Sucks that he turned out to be solid, but he is in no way a world beater............Plus, we filled his slot quite nicely in the subsequent years with a much better safety, ST21.

[NC_Skins]

**** it. Decide to do the research.


2003- 4th rounder (Trung Candidate trade)

2004- 2nd rounder (in Portis trade)

2005- 3rd rounder (JC trade)

2006- 1st rounder (JC trade)
3rd rounder (duckett trade)
3rd rounder(Lloyd trade)
4th rounder (JC trade)

2007- 4th rounder (Lloyd trade)

2008- 2nd rounder (jason taylor trade)

2009- 4th rounder (Pete Kendall trade)
7th rounder (Erasmus James trade)

2010- 6th rounder (Jason Taylor trade)


1st round totals: 1
2nd round totals: 2
3rd round totals: 3
4th round totals: 4
5th round totals:
6th round totals: 1
7th round totals: 1



These are the draft picks that were pissed away from 2003-2009. You want to know why this team still doesn't have depth? Well, there you go. Even if you land on just 3 of those picks, that's 3 players still on this team that would be starting or providing depth.

Cliffnotes: FU Joe Gibbs 2.0 and Vinny Bugeyes.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Alright so I've always noticed how we always seem to lose games closely. So I went through the years from 2002-2011 (10 seasons) and I considered close losses to be by one possesion (aka a max of 8 points or less). So I counted the number of 8 point losses we've had over ten years compared to all the other teams in the NFL. The results I found were pretty interesting/Somewhat shocking/somewhat surprising:

The number 1 team who loses the most 'Close' games in the NFL since 02:

1. Redskins 60 close losses the past 10 years; thats an average of 6 close losses a season.
2. (Tie) Detroit and Cleveland w/ 53 close losses.
3. Cincinnatti with 47

Teams with the fewest close losses:

1. New England with 19
2. Indy with 26
3. NY Giants 28

This tells me that we are a great team that can't seem to finish games. We know how to be competitive, but we just don't have that extra push from either our players or our coaches or both.

If you think about it, if we got half, 3/4, or all of those close loss games to wins, we'd be a playoff team most years.

Discuss!

Most interesting point. Nice dig there. New England and Giants on top of spread and Detroit, Cleveland and Washington on bottom of spread. Yes it does say a lot.

[CrustyRedskin]

Nice, now i feel officially like a Browns fan.

[53Fan]

Don't forget our castoff saviour McNabb. Didn't we give up a 3rd rounder for a QB that confused receivers feet with their hands?