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Old 11-23-2012, 09:29 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

[QUOTE=punch it in;967378]Davis is small - wouldnt call him a redzone target. I agree though he must be resigned. I was wondering the same thing last nite. Just shifted to wr's. early too. Hey atleast theres no Shanny talk rite?[/]

Ha. Agreed, can't talk to much about him after beating 2 division rivals within 4 days of each other.

December 3rd is an epic night for the 2012 season.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:15 PM   #2
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On a related note, it's good to see Trent fight through an injury earlier in the season and continue to play at a high level. Shows maturity.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:56 AM   #3
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I disagree. Rg3 is hit on nearly every play. The Oline is BARELY getting the job done. its serviceable, but not heroic.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:10 AM   #4
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I disagree. Rg3 is hit on nearly every play. The Oline is BARELY getting the job done. its serviceable, but not heroic.
a lot of RG3 hits that i've seen are when we do that gay option shit. Minus the panthers sack fest, we've done a real good job this year on the OL
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:12 AM   #5
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a lot of RG3 hits that i've seen are when we do that gay option shit. Minus the panthers sack fest, we've done a real good job this year on the OL
I disagree. I watch a lot of film because im crazy, and most of his hits come from when the run from under center and shotgun but dont move the pocket. When hes rolling out or running the pistol he doesnt seem to take a lot of hits. It seems like defensive cordinators dont blitz us very often when we are in the pistol set. I think its one of the main reasons that RG3 has over 120.0 passing rating when hes blitzed.

Lineman just dont hold a very good pocket when its not moving. Oh and Morris has been shady on blitz pickups too. He usually reads wrong. Hes just not use to the slides yet.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:39 PM   #6
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And like Punch said we've been lucky with injuries across the oline this season. I don't even count J Brown as a starter anymore, but what you can say is our depth is very suspect since the RT is Polumbus. Maybe the backup talent across the interior is better, but there's no way to really know.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:48 PM   #7
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when you have smaller faster OL guys, guess what? they get pushed around more. that's just part of the trade off when you're not starting 5 pro bowlers.

still, morris and our TEs could really do better in blitz pickup and that'd help. I think our LT-RG are good enough though. I mean, you can't have 22 HoFers starting for you.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:51 PM   #8
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The line is better this year more than previous because of RG3. He makes anyone look better. Trent though is playing at an all pro level IMO
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Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

Any complaining about the offensive line, or a lack of guys who can make people miss, seems to be a point of view entirely ignorant of the most important fact: we're 7th in the league in points per game with 26.8 and second in the league in turnover margin with +24.

So whatever we lack in offensive linemen or players who can make others miss in open space, those deficiencies sure are not showing up in the stat sheet. The line has had poor moments, but the offense overall has been performing extremely well. Griffin is obviously the biggest reason for that.

So unless you think Robert Griffin will get worse, aside from RT I don't know why you'd do anything but invest heavily in defense.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:00 PM   #10
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Any complaining about the offensive line, or a lack of guys who can make people miss, seems to be a point of view entirely ignorant of the most important fact: we're 7th in the league in points per game with 26.8 and second in the league in turnover margin with +24.

So whatever we lack in offensive linemen or players who can make others miss in open space, those deficiencies sure are not showing up in the stat sheet. The line has had poor moments, but the offense overall has been performing extremely well. Griffin is obviously the biggest reason for that.

So unless you think Robert Griffin will get worse, aside from RT I don't know why you'd do anything but invest heavily in defense.
Very good point.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:47 PM   #11
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Any complaining about the offensive line, or a lack of guys who can make people miss, seems to be a point of view entirely ignorant of the most important fact: we're 7th in the league in points per game with 26.8 and second in the league in turnover margin with +24.

So whatever we lack in offensive linemen or players who can make others miss in open space, those deficiencies sure are not showing up in the stat sheet. The line has had poor moments, but the offense overall has been performing extremely well. Griffin is obviously the biggest reason for that.

So unless you think Robert Griffin will get worse, aside from RT I don't know why you'd do anything but invest heavily in defense.
What are you talking about? Sacks don't matter? It's especially concerning when you have a mobile QB who's gonna take a certain number of shots anyway, and who's already suffered a concussion this season to boot. I'm amazed at fan attitudes/reactions to the beating RG3 takes to survive our poor blocking and even turn some of those blown plays into something.

And who's to say with solid protection our offense wouldn't be top 2? Is there no difference between 7th overall and 2nd overall in points? I would guess wins could be the difference, and last I checked we haven't broken 0.500.

We agree that RT has to be upgraded, but I'm also pretty certain pass protection has to improve or the answer to your question (does RG3 get worse) won't be the one we're hoping for. He's tough as nails but so was Vick as a young player...our bodies break down.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:10 PM   #12
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Any complaining about the offensive line, or a lack of guys who can make people miss, seems to be a point of view entirely ignorant of the most important fact: we're 7th in the league in points per game with 26.8 and second in the league in turnover margin with +24.

So whatever we lack in offensive linemen or players who can make others miss in open space, those deficiencies sure are not showing up in the stat sheet. The line has had poor moments, but the offense overall has been performing extremely well. Griffin is obviously the biggest reason for that.

So unless you think Robert Griffin will get worse, aside from RT I don't know why you'd do anything but invest heavily in defense.
you miss the point entirely. this thread refers to our offensive linemen being heroes. Theyre not. theyre passable at best. we have the 7th rated offense in spite of a mediocre offensive line, not because of it. This thread is about the o-line and the o-line is not very good. Still, if we're ranking offseason needs, its hard to argue that the secondary isnt the top concern. O-line would be second. That said, our o-line has been remarkably healthy this year. I shudder to think how bad things would get if any of the starters were gone for any length of time. We cannot ignore the line in the offseason.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:29 PM   #13
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The Skins have to continue strengthening the OL through the draft. I initially thought the defense needed the the most help but, it's more important that this team protect their greatest chance to win: RG3. After all, the best defense is a strong offense. It's funny how a couple of games made me feel like this team isn't far away from becomng a legit contender.
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@ Schneed10: Strong post.

Although not stellar, our O-line has not been terrible. Rather, it has been better than merely functional and a part of the entire offense's success.
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The Skins have to continue strengthening the OL through the draft. I initially thought the defense needed the the most help but, it's more important that this team protect their greatest chance to win: RG3. After all, the best defense is a strong offense. It's funny how a couple of games made me feel like this team isn't far away from becomng a legit contender.
Well compton, gettis , and lerib are still total x - factors. Bernstine , crawford, and BW of course out there for the secondary too. But we need to draft D just because RG-3 gives us limitless potential on the other side. HTTR.
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