Chris Cooley

[REDSKINS4ever]

So the argument now is Cooley is older which means he's slower. He can't run routes, run off the line of scrimmage as a flanker like he used to. The experience that he's had throughout his career doesn't help him now? He can't catch the damn football? I saw both Paulsen and Paul each drop passes in the Monday Night game against the Giants a week ago that Cooley would have hauled in.

Some of you are making it seem like Chris Cooley is some has-been senior citizen playing TE for the Redskins or something.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Paulsen is good at blocking and passing. Paul, not so much. While Cooley may not be back (I hope he does), Fred Davis will be back next season.

What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.

Correction: Cooley was a probowl player who had his best season in 2010 with Mike Shanahan and he said after being released he preferred to stay in DC to live and play for the Skins again.

See how those darn facts make it so much different than the nonsense you wrote?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.

Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?

I think that's going to be the tough part in bringing Davis back. I just don't see how you don't bring Davis back with RG3 at the helm. I mean imagine next year Garcon, Davis, and both RG3 and Morris with a year under their belt? That's going to be an INSANE offense (especially since we are a top 5 offense right now).

[los panda]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?

so you're saying niles paul is as good as carlester crumpler, zeron flemister, and ernie conwell?

[SkinsGuru]

i'd like to see a little more of Cooley too . . . the last 2 weeks Paulsen has multiple dropped passes and multiple penalties . . . he has been bad recently!!

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?

i think he deserves something in the aaron hernandez neighborhood.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.

i read that Cooley turned down quite a few offers, to start even, telling teams if he was going to play again if would be for the Redskins and no one else . . .

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?

I know you didn't ask me, but when has that ever made a difference lol. I don't think Cooley was ever elite. His only pro bowl nod was in 2007 because he was a TD machine. But his best overall season was 2010 IMO.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Who knows? We all know Mike runs a pretty tight ship, and Cooley has a rep for slacking. All I'm saying is Cooley looks quicker than I remember him and Paul looks like shit, but we still see them working Paul into the passing game rather than Cooley.

Mike likes to be right, who doesn't? But if "results" matter more or less for different players (gameday results) I think it's hard to keep a team together. We've seen the guys come together over the last four weeks. Personally, I think it has more to do with locker room leadership (RG and London would be my guesses) than Mike or anything with coaching. Just talking about focus and intensity here.

Coaching/play-calling has definitely improved as well, both offense and defense. I think we're closer to firing on all (available) cylinders than ever before, but forcing a guy like Paul into the mix doesn't help.

I was being sarcastic before, but of course Mike and Kyle are watching the Tight Ends, and results are not limited to Game Day, Mike always wants guys who practice every day like it's game day. I don't think Cooley has ever done that before now (and I don't know whether he is doing it now or not).

If you watch the America's Game episodes of the Bronco's two superbowls you hear what Shanahan expects, and how much respect he gets from top to bottom of the roster because he doesn't play favorites much.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So the argument now is Cooley is older which means he's slower. He can't run routes, run off the line of scrimmage as a flanker like he used to. The experience that he's had throughout his career doesn't help him now? He can't catch the damn football? I saw both Paulsen and Paul each drop passes in the Monday Night game against the Giants a week ago that Cooley would have hauled in.

Some of you are making it seem like Chris Cooley is some has-been senior citizen playing TE for the Redskins or something.

Is your argument that he isn't slow and incapable of effectively getting open? If so, I'd like to know how you've decided this considering he doesn't really run routes anymore. Stop living in the past.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Correction: Cooley was a probowl player who had his best season in 2010 with Mike Shanahan and he said after being released he preferred to stay in DC to live and play for the Skins again.

See how those darn facts make it so much different than the nonsense you wrote?

How? Please explain.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

i read that Cooley turned down quite a few offers, to start even, telling teams if he was going to play again if would be for the Redskins and no one else . . .

Citation?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by los panda

so you're saying niles paul is as good as carlester crumpler, zeron flemister, and ernie conwell?

No, I am saying Niles Paul is as good as John f'ing Beck baby!