Chris Cooley

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

REDSKINS4ever, you need to take your emotion out of the conversation. You are such a big Cooley fan that it clouds your judgement of him.

You and GOAT are so caught up with TE being a receiver that you lose sight that the main reason Shanahan has Paulsen and Paul in there instead of Cooley is because they are winning and Paulsen & Paul are good blockers and pass protectors. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Ever heard of that?

It is no coincidence that our offense changed and in turn solidified when Fred Davis and Cooley (not known for their blocking) were either injured or cut.
You guys really underestimate the value of good run blocking TE's in THIS offense even if they are not pass catchers. Up to know we have had enough production through the ground game and RGIII and our WR's, that we can win with out our TE's being heavily involved in the passing attack.
If it works why change it?

Paulsen is good at blocking and passing. Paul, not so much. While Cooley may not be back (I hope he does), Fred Davis will be back next season.

[FRPLG]

Based on what we saw in preseason Cooley can't really run much anymore. Not sure why he'd be getting opportunities over other more serviceable guts like Paul and Paulsen. What makes anyone think he is better than either? What he DID BEFORE is meaningless. What he can DO NOW matters most.

[REDSKINS4ever]

So the argument now is Cooley is older which means he's slower. He can't run routes, run off the line of scrimmage as a flanker like he used to. The experience that he's had throughout his career doesn't help him now? He can't catch the damn football? I saw both Paulsen and Paul each drop passes in the Monday Night game against the Giants a week ago that Cooley would have hauled in.

Some of you are making it seem like Chris Cooley is some has-been senior citizen playing TE for the Redskins or something.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So the argument now is Cooley is older which means he's slower. He can't run routes, run off the line of scrimmage as a flanker like he used to. The experience that he's had throughout his career doesn't help him now? He can't catch the damn football? I saw both Paulsen and Paul each drop passes in the Monday Night game against the Giants a week ago that Cooley would have hauled in.

Some of you are making it seem like Chris Cooley is some has-been senior citizen playing TE for the Redskins or something.

Is your argument that he isn't slow and incapable of effectively getting open? If so, I'd like to know how you've decided this considering he doesn't really run routes anymore. Stop living in the past.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Is your argument that he isn't slow and incapable of effectively getting open? If so, I'd like to know how you've decided this considering he doesn't really run routes anymore. Stop living in the past.

All TEs are not athletic like Fred Davis and Vernon Davis. TEs are not fast runners to begin with. That's how I decided this considering that Cooley doesn't run routes anymore. He doesn't run routes anymore because he's not in the game most of the time anymore. That's not saying that he can't. If his number is called, he surely could.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

He doesn't run routes anymore because he's not in the game most of the time anymore. That's not saying that he can't. If his number is called, he surely could.

Why do think this is?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Why do think this is?

Because Paulsen is a little younger. But he's not better. But with the exception of Tony Gonzales, no other starting TE is still starting from the time they started in 2004. Not even Jeremy Shockey.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Is your argument that he isn't slow and incapable of effectively getting open? If so, I'd like to know how you've decided this considering he doesn't really run routes anymore. Stop living in the past.

You'll see Cooley open and the ball forced elsewhere. Happened (again) in the Ravens game.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You'll see Cooley open and the ball forced elsewhere. Happened (again) in the Ravens game.

Was this before or after you watched the game?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You'll see Cooley open and the ball forced elsewhere. Happened (again) in the Ravens game.

Right. When the other TEs are in the game Bob is cool with getting them the ball but when CC is in the game he is trying so hard not to that he'll force it elsewhere. So not only is Shanny holding CC back he has a conspiracy with RGIII to do so.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Right. When the other TEs are in the game Bob is cool with getting them the ball but when CC is in the game he is trying so hard not to that he'll force it elsewhere. So not only is Shanny holding CC back he has a conspiracy with RGIII to do so.

Truly one of the dumbest posts I've ever read here. Do you not watch us play? Cooley is rarely targeted, but myself and others have seen him open. It's pretty simple. All the nonsense you added is just...nonsense.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Right. When the other TEs are in the game Bob is cool with getting them the ball but when CC is in the game he is trying so hard not to that he'll force it elsewhere. So not only is Shanny holding CC back he has a conspiracy with RGIII to do so.

..........I KNOW, right?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You'll see Cooley open and the ball forced elsewhere. Happened (again) in the Ravens game.

And again, you don't think that Bob has his receivers he's comfortable with? My guess is that Bob has an attitude similar to Shanahan's. I am going to go to the guys I trust and who I know will be where they were in practice. Seems like he has thrown to a number of TE's, but also that he has "his" guys, Garcon, and Davis clearly were his first guys. By the time he gets down to Cooley, I think he is debating whether he is better off running or tossing.

(all speculation on my part)

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Paulsen is good at blocking and passing. Paul, not so much. While Cooley may not be back (I hope he does), Fred Davis will be back next season.

What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?

I think that's going to be the tough part in bringing Davis back. I just don't see how you don't bring Davis back with RG3 at the helm. I mean imagine next year Garcon, Davis, and both RG3 and Morris with a year under their belt? That's going to be an INSANE offense (especially since we are a top 5 offense right now).