Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu

Defensewins · 03-27-2013, 04:44 PM

He is a talented football player that is undersized. However judging the type of player the redskins have been drafting lately, team captains, locker room leaders, on the field leaders, this guy does not fit that recent trend. So on that point alone I do not see the Redskins drafting this troubled player unless he drops to the fourth round or below and that is not going to happen.
Bottom line: we have to many needs and this draft is to deep to be taking a chance on a player with a troubled past.

Lotus · 03-27-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

He is a talented football player that is undersized. However judging the type of player the redskins have been drafting lately, team captains, locker room leaders, on the field leaders, this guy does not fit that recent trend. So on that point alone I do not see the Redskins drafting this troubled player unless he drops to the fourth round or below and that is not going to happen.
Bottom line: we have to many needs and this draft is to deep to be taking a chance on a player with a troubled past.

Well put.

Evilgrin · 03-27-2013, 05:10 PM

His size shouldn't be an issue, it's whether he is meant to play safety or corner, and if his head is on straight.

NYCskinfan82 · 03-27-2013, 05:51 PM

I'm rolling with whatever the FO thinks, but if he's there in the 4th then make that phone call. We had Banks on the team for 2 years and IMO he did nothing at least this guy plays corner and ST.

donofriose · 03-27-2013, 09:31 PM

Third or Fourth Round, Like Mike Mayock said from NFL Network, Redskins should not take him until the end of the third or risk taking him in the fourth.

Great instincts, even though I do not see him as a safety because I think he maxed out his frame at 186 and if he tries to build more muscle he won't have much flexibility, just be a worst Laron Landry.

But as your 3rd or 4th corner/punt returner, he is worth a late 3rd/4th round pick. I wouldn't trust him to cover Victor Cruz one on one, feel like he would beat him pretty often, like Tavon Austin, The entire Alabama receiving core, and Rogers did. But if the Redskins would be willing to play more zone, he would do well.

Like many of said, its not necessarily that he can play any position, its more of the fact that he really does not have a position, not good enough in man or has the size to play on the outside, not big enough to play safety consistently and there was a reason LSU rarely used him to cover deep parts of the field. Great playmaker but has huge weaknesses that a defense coordinator would have to build around.

GridIron26 · 03-28-2013, 06:33 PM

"Debunking the Myth that is the Honey Badger" -Why Tyrann Mathieu Won't Work for the Redskins

Interesting argument against Mathieu

mredskins · 03-28-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

"Debunking the Myth that is the Honey Badger" -Why Tyrann Mathieu Won't Work for the Redskins

Interesting argument against Mathieu

Seriously? Read much?

Evilgrin · 03-29-2013, 10:58 AM

5'9 DBs are still all over the NFL...

Not sure where he is drafted, probably no earlier then 4th.

bigdaddy2348 · 03-29-2013, 01:09 PM

I bet Fred Davis and Trent Williams want to see him come to Washington.

Chico23231 · 03-29-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdaddy2348

I bet Fred Davis and Trent Williams want to see him come to Washington.

"roll that blunt punk rookie"

Ruhskins · 03-29-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

"roll that blunt punk rookie"

More like "get the snacks" rookie.

CultBrennan59 · 03-29-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdaddy2348

I bet Fred Davis and Trent Williams want to see him come to Washington.

Haha

I would say welcome to the warpath, but you've been a member longer than I have

diehardskin2982 · 03-30-2013, 09:39 AM

Or they can tell him how hard it is to hide a drug problem and that the NFL will suspend your ass with the quickness.

Chico23231 · 04-12-2013, 12:07 PM

Report: Mathieu told NFL coaches he failed more than 10 drug tests | ProFootballTalk

So in the NCAA you can just keep failing drug tests and keep playing?

CultBrennan59 · 04-12-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Report: Mathieu told NFL coaches he failed more than 10 drug tests | ProFootballTalk

So in the NCAA you can just keep failing drug tests and keep playing?

As NFLdraftscout said on Twitter, someone wants mathieu to fall in the draft.

I knew he failed drug tests in college but I thought it was 2-4, not 10. Holy smokes. And how LSU doesn't get penalized is beyond me.

03-27-2013, 04:44 PM	#1
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,767	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu He is a talented football player that is undersized. However judging the type of player the redskins have been drafting lately, team captains, locker room leaders, on the field leaders, this guy does not fit that recent trend. So on that point alone I do not see the Redskins drafting this troubled player unless he drops to the fourth round or below and that is not going to happen. Bottom line: we have to many needs and this draft is to deep to be taking a chance on a player with a troubled past.

03-27-2013, 05:10 PM	#3
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu His size shouldn't be an issue, it's whether he is meant to play safety or corner, and if his head is on straight. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

03-27-2013, 05:51 PM	#4
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu I'm rolling with whatever the FO thinks, but if he's there in the 4th then make that phone call. We had Banks on the team for 2 years and IMO he did nothing at least this guy plays corner and ST.

03-27-2013, 09:31 PM	#5
donofriose The Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,097	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu Third or Fourth Round, Like Mike Mayock said from NFL Network, Redskins should not take him until the end of the third or risk taking him in the fourth. Great instincts, even though I do not see him as a safety because I think he maxed out his frame at 186 and if he tries to build more muscle he won't have much flexibility, just be a worst Laron Landry. But as your 3rd or 4th corner/punt returner, he is worth a late 3rd/4th round pick. I wouldn't trust him to cover Victor Cruz one on one, feel like he would beat him pretty often, like Tavon Austin, The entire Alabama receiving core, and Rogers did. But if the Redskins would be willing to play more zone, he would do well. Like many of said, its not necessarily that he can play any position, its more of the fact that he really does not have a position, not good enough in man or has the size to play on the outside, not big enough to play safety consistently and there was a reason LSU rarely used him to cover deep parts of the field. Great playmaker but has huge weaknesses that a defense coordinator would have to build around. Last edited by donofriose; 03-27-2013 at 09:42 PM.

03-28-2013, 06:33 PM	#6
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,728	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu "Debunking the Myth that is the Honey Badger" -Why Tyrann Mathieu Won't Work for the Redskins Interesting argument against Mathieu

03-29-2013, 10:58 AM	#8
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu 5'9 DBs are still all over the NFL... Not sure where he is drafted, probably no earlier then 4th. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

03-29-2013, 01:09 PM	#9
bigdaddy2348 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swedesboro NJ Posts: 98	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu I bet Fred Davis and Trent Williams want to see him come to Washington.

03-30-2013, 09:39 AM	#13
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu Or they can tell him how hard it is to hide a drug problem and that the NFL will suspend your ass with the quickness. __________________ That got ugly fast

04-12-2013, 12:07 PM	#14
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu Report: Mathieu told NFL coaches he failed more than 10 drug tests \| ProFootballTalk So in the NCAA you can just keep failing drug tests and keep playing? __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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