90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?

Monksdown · 03-23-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by redrock-skins

Thank you. But I'm the daddy! :headbange

my wife got hotter to me the bigger she got. There is something inside us that makes us more attracted to our own wives when they are pregnant. Atleast, that's my experience.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-23-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

Wolfeskins: we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.

Like I said. Speculation, speculation, speculation. If PSU has outstanding academic NCAA violations, you would hear about it just like you do when any other college gets in trouble or sanctioned for not following the rules. And the soccer analogy would be a recruiting violation, not an academic violation.
You know what, let me try it this way:
EVERY baseball player is on steroids.
EVERY hockey player supports the strike.
EVERY person who lives in Philadelphia is an Eagles fan.
EVERY Dallas Cowboy is a criminal. (ok, well this one may have some stock).
Get the point? Just because it's true for some, doesn't mean there are not exceptions. If you want to believe that the programs that strive to remain above board (like PSU, Michigan, UVA, Notre Dame) are just as guilty as the rest, or that they have their "fair share" of violations, or for that matter any violations, and that PSU players don't have to do their own school work and that Paterno doesn't bench them for missing classes or doing poorly, then I suppose there is nothing I can do about that because you must know more than I about my own alma mater. But when you make blind and unsupported accusations to the public, I'll be here to point out that none of the facts support you.
Now that I'm sure everyone is sick of reading this rant, back to Redskins football.

By the way, I LOVE that Arrington was a surprise show at the voluntary workout when others on this site who claim to be Skins fans were so quick to SPECULATE that he wasn't there. Nothing satisfies me more than when the FACTS make people eat crow. Guess he might have learned something about dedication and work ethic after all from that corrupt JoePa and his violation ridden program.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-23-2005, 09:15 AM

Just in case you all missed it:

Originally Posted by Daseal:
"Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!"

Now don't you feel foolish? Darn those facts for always getting in the way. D'oh!

EEich · 03-23-2005, 09:39 AM

Jumping to conclusions. How unusual.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 09:40 AM

And the last horse crosses the finish line...

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 10:38 AM

PSUSKinsFan: Guess what, someone earlier in the thread said he wasn't there, I assumed they had a source. If not that had reason to believe that since the year before he missed multiple voluntary workouts. So don't get on your high Arrington horse and ride him into the model-player sunset.

Name once I've said I'm sure Penn State had academic violations? I've said I'm sure they have NCAA violations, that doesn't always mean giving students A's -- though if they had tutors doing homework I wouldn't be shocked.. Of course I can't prove it, schools cover this up and take forever to do so even with the appropriate resources. I promise you Penn State has broken NCAA rules, every school has.

skinsguy · 03-23-2005, 11:55 AM

Are you talking about when someone said that Arrington MAY have not been there because he MIGHT have been on his honeymoon? If so, that is just speculation on the part of that poster and unless he has direct ties with the team, it should just be treated as mere speculation and not fact.

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)

MTK · 03-23-2005, 12:42 PM

Arrington is a bad leader yet Coles is a good guy

rrrrrrrrright

Redskins_P · 03-23-2005, 12:45 PM

Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

MTK · 03-23-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

makes sense to me!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 01:02 PM

Bad leader sounds very oxymoronish to me. It's kind of like, "You're a leader or you're not."

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 01:36 PM

Please, Matty. Show me where Arrington has stepped up and taken the team on his back? I have yet to see it, he talks like he wants it but when the going gets tuff, LaVar quiets down.

Do I ever say Spurrier good, Gibbs bad? I use the same arguments against Gibbs everyone used against Spurrier. Funny how that works. All of a sudden it's the players not executing - not poor coaching. I've said a million times that Spurrier had his share of problems, he needed to make adjustments. I've said the same thing about Gibbs's'sees', have I also not said he has three years to turn the team around before I call for a replacement? I think I have in nearly every thread. The same grace period I would have given Spurrier or any other coach. The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win.

Malcolm - he keeps trying to be a leader, but can't fill the shoes. Therefore making him a bad leader.

Monksdown · 03-23-2005, 01:38 PM

Daseal-was it two years ago when Arrington intercepted that pass. And the Redskins had an emotional recovery through the remainder of the season. When was that? And Arrington's arrogance and physical dominance is an anchor on defense. I've always thought that players like him elevate their worth in the locker room.

Daseal · 03-23-2005, 01:41 PM

He made a big play - good. He was the #2 overall pick. That's what they do. However, calling him a leader because he got an interception isn't accurate. Todd Franz got an interception, was he a leader after that game?

03-23-2005, 09:15 AM	#48
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Just in case you all missed it: Originally Posted by Daseal: "Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!" Now don't you feel foolish? Darn those facts for always getting in the way. D'oh! __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

03-23-2005, 09:39 AM	#49
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 60 Posts: 1,001	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Jumping to conclusions. How unusual.

03-23-2005, 09:40 AM	#50
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? And the last horse crosses the finish line... __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 10:38 AM	#51
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? PSUSKinsFan: Guess what, someone earlier in the thread said he wasn't there, I assumed they had a source. If not that had reason to believe that since the year before he missed multiple voluntary workouts. So don't get on your high Arrington horse and ride him into the model-player sunset. Name once I've said I'm sure Penn State had academic violations? I've said I'm sure they have NCAA violations, that doesn't always mean giving students A's -- though if they had tutors doing homework I wouldn't be shocked.. Of course I can't prove it, schools cover this up and take forever to do so even with the appropriate resources. I promise you Penn State has broken NCAA rules, every school has.

03-23-2005, 11:55 AM	#52
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Are you talking about when someone said that Arrington MAY have not been there because he MIGHT have been on his honeymoon? If so, that is just speculation on the part of that poster and unless he has direct ties with the team, it should just be treated as mere speculation and not fact. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

03-23-2005, 12:39 PM	#53
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)

03-23-2005, 12:42 PM	#54
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Arrington is a bad leader yet Coles is a good guy rrrrrrrrright __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-23-2005, 12:45 PM	#55
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

03-23-2005, 01:02 PM	#57
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Bad leader sounds very oxymoronish to me. It's kind of like, "You're a leader or you're not." __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 01:36 PM	#58
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Please, Matty. Show me where Arrington has stepped up and taken the team on his back? I have yet to see it, he talks like he wants it but when the going gets tuff, LaVar quiets down. Do I ever say Spurrier good, Gibbs bad? I use the same arguments against Gibbs everyone used against Spurrier. Funny how that works. All of a sudden it's the players not executing - not poor coaching. I've said a million times that Spurrier had his share of problems, he needed to make adjustments. I've said the same thing about Gibbs's'sees', have I also not said he has three years to turn the team around before I call for a replacement? I think I have in nearly every thread. The same grace period I would have given Spurrier or any other coach. The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win. Malcolm - he keeps trying to be a leader, but can't fill the shoes. Therefore making him a bad leader.

03-23-2005, 01:38 PM	#59
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 1,515	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? Daseal-was it two years ago when Arrington intercepted that pass. And the Redskins had an emotional recovery through the remainder of the season. When was that? And Arrington's arrogance and physical dominance is an anchor on defense. I've always thought that players like him elevate their worth in the locker room.

03-23-2005, 01:41 PM	#60
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there? He made a big play - good. He was the #2 overall pick. That's what they do. However, calling him a leader because he got an interception isn't accurate. Todd Franz got an interception, was he a leader after that game?

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