Around the League...Training Camp Style!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You can count on the Jets to keep it classy.

...but it makes that nosedive in the regular season all the sweeter!!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shanahan is just unreal.

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

The only part of his situation that was no-win was the bogus salary cap penalty, other than that, he had basically free reign. If that is a no win situation then he should not coach again.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm sure he'd be great on TV. Remember his pressers? Always so charming and engaging.

Well he's not going to give the media anything. If you got him away from that environment where he was just analyzing I think he'd be fine.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The only part of his situation that was no-win was the bogus psalary cap penalty, other than that, he had basically free reign. If that is a no win situation then he should not coach again.

I never said anything close to that .

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

Dude had total control here, end of the day he just didn't get it done. Just like his last 3 yrs in Denver that got him canned. Worst part is he never takes any blame.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well he's not going to give the media anything. If you got him away from that environment where he was just analyzing I think he'd be fine.

Some guys aren't cut out for media gigs and typically it shows through pretty clearly in how they handle the media as coaches.

Shanahan is just a bore and has never shown much TV personality. He's easily agitated and goes on the defensive more often than not. Personally I can't see him becoming a successful TV type.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Dude had total control here, end of the day he just didn't get it done. Just like his last 3 yrs in Denver that got him canned. Worst part is he never takes any blame.

I understand all I was doing was pointing out what the thought process was outside the Washington area .He has ,John Elway , Steve Young and Peyton Manning singing his praises , he will get another job .

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

No he's not. Around the league everyone knows this was his show. And they all watched him run BS cover for his son, who I like a lot as a coordinator btw, because Kyle couldn't make the situation worth here with 2 QBs. The shade Shanny threw behind the scenes was shameful. Doubt he ever gets a look again.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No he's not. Around the league everyone knows this was his show. And they all watched him run BS cover for his son, who I like a lot as a coordinator btw, because Kyle couldn't make the situation worth here with 2 QBs. The shade Shanny threw behind the scenes was shameful. Doubt he ever gets a look again.

Not according to the NFL network .

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Not according to the NFL network .

He couldn't win here even though he had full control over the team. Like CRedskins said, if that constitutes a no-win situation for him, he obviously shouldn't be hired again.

Anyway, he failed and was fired here, he failed and was fired in Oakland, and his Broncos team was floundering when he was fired there... I doubt he'll get another job.

[HoustonSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Not according to the NFL network .

Lol. NFL Network is a joke.

Most opposing team fans I knew were very skeptical of the Shamahan hire when it happened, because of his mediocre last few seasons in Denver. Being a pretty big Homer, I defended him as well as Haslett... But it seems as if they were right. And they may be right about Haz; he's got one more season to turn it around. An improved offense will help out the D, but there were some fundamental problems last year. Tackling, for example, was atrocious.

He just doesn't have what it takes as a talent evaluator; outside of Dumervil and Clady, he didn't really hit on any draft picks in his last 4 or 5 drafts (edit: in Denver). Awful.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Some guys aren't cut out for media gigs and typically it shows through pretty clearly in how they handle the media as coaches.

Shanahan is just a bore and has never shown much TV personality. He's easily agitated and goes on the defensive more often than not. Personally I can't see him becoming a successful TV type.

Watching some of the coaches shows he did, I think they could give him game tape and a clicker, and he could be interesting in a 5 minute segment showing how schemes were applied, and how it developed. That said, he always looked uncomfortable on that show, and I doubt he is chomping at the bit to be in the media.

[tshile]

This is when my fellow redskins fans crack me up... getting all worked up over Shanahan's quotes. Invariably the same people that were saying Griffin, Haslet, et al have not been taking shots at Shanahan and his son since they left.

I'm surprised it took Shanahan so long to take a shot and I'm surprised it was as subdued as it was.

And NFL network isn't really anyone that matters. But if you know people around the league then you know the story GM's and Owners have about Shanahan's tenure here is not the same as fans/media.

Anyone who's worked for the redskins (or any team for that matter) or been close with anyone who has knows there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that the average fan never finds out about. A variety of reasons contribute to that, one being that you have to be behind the scenes to start with, the other being that people in the media (local media mainly) are not interested in losing their job, or compromising the job of their source, just for the sake of 'getting the truth out there.'

A lot went on behind the scenes at the end of 2012 and throughout the 2013 season. To sit back and blame Shanahan for all of it is lol. And if you think the GM's and owners in this league are restricted to narrative the majority of fans are... then lol again.

[HoustonSkinsFan]

I don't necessarily agree that Griffin has been consistently taking shots. He took some shots after Shanahan was fired, I don't think anyone will deny that. But some people think everything that comes out of Griffin's mouth is a shot at Shammy, and that's just not the case.

I'd argue that Shanny's shots were far worse, because they were petulant and retaliatory in nature. He had the perfect chance to be the bigger man, and he failed miserably. Fits perfectly with the Ivory tower, spiteful, vindictive image that's been painted of Shan in the past.