Week 1 Positives and Negatives

[NC_Skins]

Stole this from /r/Redskins.

Some PFF notes on the Texans game (positives & negatives)
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As always, players are compared among those with over 25% of snaps.

Not including the 2 Monday night games.
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The Positives:

• Robert Griffin III had the 2nd highest completion rate (78.4%) among QB's. His 267 yards and 96.7 passer rating were 11th. We were guinea pigs to the Texans D, just like we were guinea pigs to the Eagles O last year.

• Signature Stats: The good: RG3 was #1/28 in accuracy (91% accounting for drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes, & hits as thrown). He was #4/28 in accuracy under pressure, and #5/28 in PFF's adjusted passer rating. The bad: He had the 3rd longest avg time to throw (2.93 seconds). It seems his accuracy was good BECAUSE he waited so long for the perfect opportunities. Peyton Manning is still #1 in time to throw, and Andy Dalton #2.

• Andre Roberts graded #3/53 among kick/punt returners FUCK YEAH. His 18 yds/punt return is 2nd, and his 28 yds/kick return is 7th.

• Our punter Tress Way graded #6/28 YEAH MUCH IMPROVED

• Our receivers had 0 drops, after being top 5 in drops for the last two years.

• Our DE's are way better: Jason Hatcher graded #5/44, Chris Baker #20/44, Jarvis Jenkins #29/44. That's much better than last year when all our DE's were graded in the bottom 25th percentile. If Cofield played (ankle sprain) instead of Jenkins, they would've been that much better.

• Our ILB's are way better: Keenan Robinson graded #6/46, Perry Riley #22/46. Keenan Robinson allowed 1 of 4 passes for 6 yds (and he's our highest graded ST's player). Last year London Fletcher was dead last among 100 ILB's (respect, only because of old age).

• Kory Lichtensteiger graded #5/30 among Centers.

• Our run defense held Arian Foster to 3.8 yds/carry (PFF actually graded him -5.0 hahaha). Last year PFF graded our run defense 31st so that looks much improved.

• Alfred Morris ran 6.5 yds/carry (5th), and Roy Helu ran 11.5 yds/carry (although his blocking was questionable).

• Jarvis Jenkins was penalized on a late hit to Ryan Fitzpatrick... Who cares? I'm glad our 2nd round pick is finally making it to the QB, good for him. Questionable call anyway.

• Niles Paul caught 86 yds, 2nd among TE's only to Julius Thomas (see: 3 TD catches in the first half).

• Jadeveon Clowney got 0 QB pressures on 13 rushes.

• Polumbus was graded #5/60Idon'tknowwhybutItrustthem. His run blocking was 8th, and his pass blocking was 24th.

The Medium:

• Rak, Kerrigan, and Murphy were graded average and didn't do much, but I think its because the Texans ran the ball so much since they had the lead. But not every game will be like that. Orakpo only pass rushed on 12 of 20 pass plays. Wtf is he afraid to take on elite LT's? Kerrigan rushed on 21 of 24.

• Guards Chester and Lauvao graded about average.

The Negatives:

• Cofield right ankle sprain

• Jordan Reed hamstring strain

• Our secondary is still very bad: PFF graded our Safeties in the bottom 10th percentile, and our CB's in the 60-70th percentile (both about the same as last year).

• Logan Paulsen graded #43/49, as always

[CRedskinsRule]

So, now all Skins fans are in favor of abolishing the extra point, am I right??

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Here is a play that stands out that most people would blame Polumbus for. While Polumbus does get beat, I want you to notice the pocket that is formed up front. A QB has to step up into the pocket to make those throws and buy himself time. Notice that Robert doesn't slide forward and hence the pressure. You can't expect Polumbus to block Watt on a 1 on 1 basis. Most of the time in the NFL, the QB has a way of making the OL look good.

Yes, you make a good, well-illustrated point. I think we need to be able to accept that there are many fundamentals of playing QB, especially in the NFL, that Robert hasn't yet learned. He got by largely on his exceptional talent before now. Now, he is being taught those fundamentals and he must learn them on the job. That means we're going to see uneven play from him for a while.

On the other hand, as he continues to develop his fundamentals and pairs those skills with his athletic gifts we should also start to see him make more big plays and fewer negative plays.

Although I have some concerns about his judgement and instincts as a QB at this point, I also believe that he is a bright man who is working hard to improve. He wants to be the best but he must develop a stronger foundation of QB skills in order to become the best. Once playing the position the right way becomes second nature to him, he can leave behind the over-thinking and hesitating and let his talent express itself.

I have no idea how long it might take for him to get to that point. It might even be next season. Nevertheless, I think he is good enough to win with right now as long as he and the other players eliminate the most egregious of the negative plays that have plagued us as a team.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Stole this from /r/Redskins.

Some PFF notes on the Texans game (positives & negatives)
---------------------------------------------------------------
As always, players are compared among those with over 25% of snaps.

Not including the 2 Monday night games.
---------------------------------------------------------------
The Positives:

• Robert Griffin III had the 2nd highest completion rate (78.4%) among QB's. His 267 yards and 96.7 passer rating were 11th. We were guinea pigs to the Texans D, just like we were guinea pigs to the Eagles O last year.

• Signature Stats: The good: RG3 was #1/28 in accuracy (91% accounting for drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes, & hits as thrown). He was #4/28 in accuracy under pressure, and #5/28 in PFF's adjusted passer rating. The bad: He had the 3rd longest avg time to throw (2.93 seconds). It seems his accuracy was good BECAUSE he waited so long for the perfect opportunities. Peyton Manning is still #1 in time to throw, and Andy Dalton #2.

• Andre Roberts graded #3/53 among kick/punt returners FUCK YEAH. His 18 yds/punt return is 2nd, and his 28 yds/kick return is 7th.

• Our punter Tress Way graded #6/28 YEAH MUCH IMPROVED

• Our receivers had 0 drops, after being top 5 in drops for the last two years.

• Our DE's are way better: Jason Hatcher graded #5/44, Chris Baker #20/44, Jarvis Jenkins #29/44. That's much better than last year when all our DE's were graded in the bottom 25th percentile. If Cofield played (ankle sprain) instead of Jenkins, they would've been that much better.

• Our ILB's are way better: Keenan Robinson graded #6/46, Perry Riley #22/46. Keenan Robinson allowed 1 of 4 passes for 6 yds (and he's our highest graded ST's player). Last year London Fletcher was dead last among 100 ILB's (respect, only because of old age).

• Kory Lichtensteiger graded #5/30 among Centers.

• Our run defense held Arian Foster to 3.8 yds/carry (PFF actually graded him -5.0 hahaha). Last year PFF graded our run defense 31st so that looks much improved.

• Alfred Morris ran 6.5 yds/carry (5th), and Roy Helu ran 11.5 yds/carry (although his blocking was questionable).

• Jarvis Jenkins was penalized on a late hit to Ryan Fitzpatrick... Who cares? I'm glad our 2nd round pick is finally making it to the QB, good for him. Questionable call anyway.

• Niles Paul caught 86 yds, 2nd among TE's only to Julius Thomas (see: 3 TD catches in the first half).

• Jadeveon Clowney got 0 QB pressures on 13 rushes.

• Polumbus was graded #5/60Idon'tknowwhybutItrustthem. His run blocking was 8th, and his pass blocking was 24th.

The Medium:

• Rak, Kerrigan, and Murphy were graded average and didn't do much, but I think its because the Texans ran the ball so much since they had the lead. But not every game will be like that. Orakpo only pass rushed on 12 of 20 pass plays. Wtf is he afraid to take on elite LT's? Kerrigan rushed on 21 of 24.

• Guards Chester and Lauvao graded about average.

The Negatives:

• Cofield right ankle sprain

• Jordan Reed hamstring strain

• Our secondary is still very bad: PFF graded our Safeties in the bottom 10th percentile, and our CB's in the 60-70th percentile (both about the same as last year).

• Logan Paulsen graded #43/49, as always

Hard to understand the Chester, Kory and Polumbus rating.

But finally to have some true stats to what I saw from RG3 holding the ball too long. He needs to learn to trust his eyes, read the d properly and make a decisive throw. Passing concepts like "throwing a guy open" "throwing to spots" "throwing before the reciever gets his head around or before coming out his break" need to be incorporated.

[CRedskinsRule]

NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So, now all Skins fans are in favor of abolishing the extra point, am I right??

Actually I'm in favor of getting a kicker who will kick the PAT high enough to clear the line. Watt made a good play but that kick was way low.

[WillH]

Yeah, I see that too, but I wonder if that takes into account scrambles?

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hard to understand the Chester, Kory and Polumbus rating.

But finally to have some true stats to what I saw from RG3 holding the ball too long. He needs to learn to trust his eyes, read the d properly and make a decisive throw. Passing concepts like "throwing a guy open" "throwing to spots" "throwing before the reciever gets his head around or before coming out his break" need to be incorporated.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

In that situation, it's more on the QB to avoid the DE by stepping up into the pocket and making the throw. RT/LTs push the edge rushers out and back as far as possible. The interior will solidify the point of attack at the line of scrimmage and this creates that pocket for QBs to work in. It's a small tight window and something I'm sure is hard to perfect.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.

Looking at the routes being ran, it would appear it was a short pass play.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.

[irish]

RG3's completion percentage and QB rating are very misleading. His passes werent much more than long handoffs so the stats make it look like his passing had more of an impact on the game than it really did.

I thought the D played well enough to allow the team to win but its going to be difficult to win games when the offense can score.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Since Griff is 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage, that play was most likely a 7 step drop back, which isn't a quick pass type of situation.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.

I We going to say it was shotgun but you beat me to it.

Anyways beside Polombus having no shot of stopping Watt, why is the RB not helping to double team HIM?

[KI Skins Fan]

I understand why the coaches didn't give more attention to blocking Watt. The Skins even tried to block Watt with a TE one-on-one, as if that was going to work. When Clowney went out of the game, it should have been a no brainer to double-team Watt.

[hagams]

What impressed me most about this game is JJ Watt. That dude is a freaking monster. I guess that is what a 100 million dollar DL looks like. Thanks again fat Albert.

[CRedskinsRule]

Looking at the 3 screens again, and remembering the drills that we saw Orakpo and Kerrigan doing where they painted the path to take on the field, it looks like Watt took a perfect path to Griffin. First pic, he is lined up on the hash marks, shaded insided. 2nd pic, he is engaged with Polumbus but still on the hash marks, meaning Polumbus didn't get any push toward the sideline away from Griffin. 3rd pic, he is attacking Griffin at exactly the 7 yd mark and Polumbus is chasing him at that point. Griffin was actually in the pistol, meaning he got the ball and took two steps back, looked left (probably to draw the safety away) then was at the midpoint of his release when Watt got there. Ideally (I think) from pic#2's position, you would either want Watt to be about a yard toward the sideline, a yard deeper than the qb and having to come back toward Griffin.

Good point about the RB, but it looks like he was to release underneath and if so he wouldn't be in a position to get an outside chip.

Polumbus grades high as a run blocker, but the coaches have to know he can't set an edge on any speed rusher. (I don't think Moses or Compton can either )