Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[CRedskinsRule]

Can we let Cousins play 3 weeks, and then have this conversation? I would say 6-8 but that timing is coincidental and not actually related to RGIII's injury. Pat Kirwan once said, and for some reason my brain actually holds on to it as a valid thought, is that it takes the NFL about 6 weeks to catch up to tendencies of replacement qb's (assuming that they are decent players to begin with). That makes sense to me, with the varied looks and reads that qbs have to make you probably do need 3 or 4 game tapes, plus 1 or 2 to see how he adjusts to the first set of adjustments.

So I guess what I am saying, is just about the time can start to see whether we should be discussing whether to keep Cousins or not, is the time that Griffin will probably be chomping at the bit to come back. Welcome to the Skins Fan QB Conundrum.

[WillH]

My first thought on all this is, Griffin is going to want to come back too soon, especially if Cousins is ballin, and Gruden needs to put his foot down and make Griffin be patient. There is no sense ruining him, franchise QB or not. That will tell us how good of a coach he is.

I honestly have no clue. I'm trying to keep my expectations for Cousins in check, because they were on Sunday, and I was able to thoroughly enjoy every second of his performance. So, if he keeps playing like he did this week, I will enjoy the ride, and if he doesn't, oh well, he's our backup QB 4th Rd draft pick.

[CRedskinsRule]

Thanks for sharing Saden, I know most people's stance but I wasn't really positive where you stood from your oh so classy post in the other thread.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thanks for sharing Saden, I know most people's stance but I wasn't really positive where you stood from your oh so classy post in the other thread.

Well, you know what they say about opinions...thanks for sharing your opinion.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thanks for sharing Saden, I know most people's stance but I wasn't really positive where you stood from your oh so classy post in the other thread.

I agree, after that crap comment by Saden, I find it hard to even look at his posts any more. I mean, what kind of fan lists his own starting QB going down hard with a horrific injury as a positive in a game?

In my years here I'ver never, ever read a more disgusting comment. Saden is no fan of my team, frankly he needs to just go away, with the Moderators' encouragement if necessary.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

I agree, after that crap comment by Saden, I find it hard to even look at his posts any more. I mean, what kind of fan lists his own starting QB going down hard with a horrific injury as a positive in a game?

In my years here I'ver never, ever read a more disgusting comment. Saden is no fan of my team, frankly he needs to just go away, with the Moderators' encouragement if necessary.

Let me get this, you think it's okay for you to want me to go away because I want RG3 to go away? Ironic...moronic.

RG3 going down is the BEST thing to happen to this team and I am not the only one that thinks that. Feel free to speak your mind.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

Let me get this, you think it's okay for you to want me to go away because I want RG3 to go away? Ironic...moronic.

RG3 going down is the BEST thing to happen to this team and I am not the only one that thinks that. Feel free to speak your mind.

One thing to be glad Cousins is getting an opportunity, another to take glee in someone's injury

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One thing to be glad Cousins is getting an opportunity, another to take glee in someone's injury

If you think what I wrote is gleeful you are wrong. This is not personal. I want one thing and one thing only and that is to win and the only way that happens is if RG3 is off the field.

I get it though, you guys are still enamored and hopefule RG3 can be this teams champion.

[Bushead]

I think it actually doesn't depend too much on how well he plays, but if they win games. Obviously, the better he plays, the more likely he keeps the job, but if the skins come out of this with more wins than losses, we know the QB always gets more credit than he deserves.

[Gary84Clark]

Dislocated etc etc. I say 4 weeks. He landed on his ankle wrong. If you play basketball a lot this is a common injury. It hurts like hell you can't walk on it for a week or two. 4 weeks max. That injury can happen to anybody who attempts a jump pass.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Dislocated etc etc. I say 4 weeks. He landed on his ankle wrong. If you play basketball a lot this is a common injury. It hurts like hell you can't walk on it for a week or two. 4 weeks max. That injury can happen to anybody who attempts a jump pass.

Dislocated ankles are common? Twists and sprains are common, but dislocations are rare. And one dislocation often leads to another.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Dislocated ankles are common? Twists and sprains are common, but dislocations are rare. And one dislocation often leads to another.

No surgery needed, yes those types of injuries are common it's a basketball injury. Cousins has his chance we can stop talking about it and see if he seals the deal.

[Gary84Clark]

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

Not anymore. Granted there is a natural component to arm strength but more than ever scouts are realizing that in a lot cases its something that can measurably be improved on. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers all have seen significant increases over the years in arm strength with strength training geared towards Quarterback play. Granted Peyton and Brady may have started to taper off but in their primes they were much better arm strength wise than they were coming out of college. Remember, some rated Leaf over Peyton because they felt that Peyton didn't have anywhere near the arm strength as Leaf.

So it stands to reason that a natural hard worker like Cousins can improve his arm strength as well. Now it'll probably never be on par with RG3, but its certainly very reasonable to expect it to go from maybe a B- or B all the way up to a B+ or A- given enough time.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I noticed on the play Jackson got hurt on that Cousins does not have the deep ball accuracy or arm strength of Griffin. That's natural talent, can't teach that. No one is complaining about all of Cousins short passes like they complained about RG3's short passes.

Short passes? We're you watching the same game I was? He threw short, med, long, moved safeties with his eyes, the offense scored 41 points and had well over 400 yards. And he had no turnovers.

I do think Rg3 was going to have a beast of a game though...