Next years QB

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think the headline there is off. He wasn't laying blame IMO. Obviously Griffin wanted to be a drop back passer. Obviously the owner wanted the same. The main problem was/is he's just not good enough to do it. You think MS was wrong in stating that? He knew Grffin couldn't do it and that's been confirmed with his play. That's why Griffin had one offense and KC had another. The truth hurts for Griffin and the pro Griffin crowd.

I've always said this about Griffin. He's a track athlete playing football. He just doesn't have QB instincts. You either have that or you don't. They can coach him up all they want, but he'll never be great at the drop back game.

When I listened to the interview I heard MS say that RG could become a pocket QB but it would take awhile so RG had to trust that the coaches were creating an offense that would give the Skins the best chance to win while slowly increasing what RG does as a drop back QB.

Unfortunately for everyone RG didnt trust his coaches to slowly develop him into a pocket QB and we know the rest of the sad story.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Pretty clear he's pointing the finger in a big way at Snyder

Mike Shanahan blames Daniel Snyder for RGIII’s infatuation with being an Aaron Rodgers-type guy - The Washington Post

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

Good points, Id probably believe half of it. I think Shanny did want McNabb and was good with it. I do believe the Shanny part where he accused of Snyder of meddling because Snyder clearly has a history of that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements.

Poor Bruce. That sounds a lot like something Smithers would do.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Poor Bruce. That sounds a lot like something Smithers would do.

From the sound of things, we should not pity Bruce. Descriptions of Bruce seem to indicate that he takes pride in being Smithers.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not

Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.

Pretty evident Shanny was right; owner, gm, Qb and coach not on the same pages...its called dysfunction folks

[Meks]

Shanahan can go suck a meat sack

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm no fan of either Shanahan or Snyder, but it sure seems like we're all taking Shanahan's word as gospel suddenly. If Snyder sat down and did a "tell all" would we believe him?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm no fan of either Shanahan or Snyder, but it sure seems like we're all taking Shanahan's word as gospel suddenly. If Snyder sat down and did a "tell all" would we believe him?

The stuff about Griffin was truthful. I believe him on that. Griffin even mentioned himself about wanting to be like Rodgers.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

So one part of what he said about Griffin? Again, I'm not a fan of either, but we're all suddenly so sure he's just letting it all hang out now or just trying to save a little face?

[Evilgrin]

He essentially said he was against every single bad decision the team made, under his command. If that is true, then what the heck was he doing?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

He essentially said he was against every single bad decision the team made, under his command. If that is true, then what the heck was he doing?

Some of it, like Griffin not being all in, seemed true, but it's hard to imagine a head coach helplessly wringing his hands on the sideline while Dr. Andrews and his franchise QB insist on destroying himself.

Still looks like Snyder is a turd.

[Meks]

All this said, weather griffin is this, or that, we were a 3-6 team .... That won 7 straight some in dramatic or defensive fashion, the fireworks of 2012 rested on rgs legs and a two read offense that was dual threat and custom to griffin, without wat they designed for him... We may not even have this thread