Redskins reportedly are not bringing back Colt McCoy

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We don't need both them as backups. Can we please trade RG3 for the highest pick we can get then draft a young QB in the later rounds that has some upside and wont threaten Cousins as starter this year? Having 1 guy doing that is enough. Don't want QB carousel all year. Hopefully Cousins starts all 16 and Colt is solid backup.

Fixed it for you

Lotus · 03-17-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Makes sense, we will need a vet to back up Cousins

No offense my friend but reading that makes me want to hurt myself. I am back in the world of Rex and Beck.

IMO we need a REAL starting QB, not just a prayer that someone will work out.

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

No offense my friend but reading that makes me want to hurt myself. I am back in the world of Rex and Beck.

IMO we need a REAL starting QB, not just a prayer that someone will work out.

Unfortunately this is looking like what is happening...not saying I agree with it at all...but remember McC has complete control of the roster. My personal opinion is giving RG3 and Cousins both opportunity to compete for the job this upcoming season...looks like this wont be the case.

JoeRedskin · 03-17-2015, 02:30 PM

I just don't think the QB position is getting "fixed" this year. IMHO - Scot McC is seeing what JG can do with the materials at hand. If he makes progress, he gets another year and maybe a new QB (or maybe the QB position is resolved with the materials at hand). If no progress, despite all the other upgrades, then out goes JG and in comes Scot McC's coach (whomever that may be).

Again, no quick fixes but rather patience and seeking a long term solution at all levels. Fan base is going to need to make some attitude adjustments on how to judge progress.

Lotus · 03-17-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I just don't think the QB position is getting "fixed" this year. IMHO - Scot McC is seeing what JG can do with the materials at hand. If he makes progress, he gets another year and maybe a new QB (or maybe the QB position is resolved with the materials at hand). If no progress, despite all the other upgrades, then out goes JG and in comes Scot McC's coach (whomever that may be).

Again, no quick fixes but rather patience and seeking a long term solution at all levels. Fan base is going to need to make some attitude adjustments on how to judge progress.

If we go into the season with McCoy, Cousins, and RGIII as our QB's, you might as well pencil us in for 4-12 right now. We already know from experience that you can't win with that group.

Hog1 · 03-17-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I just don't think the QB position is getting "fixed" this year. IMHO - Scot McC is seeing what JG can do with the materials at hand. If he makes progress, he gets another year and maybe a new QB (or maybe the QB position is resolved with the materials at hand). If no progress, despite all the other upgrades, then out goes JG and in comes Scot McC's coach (whomever that may be).

Again, no quick fixes but rather patience and seeking a long term solution at all levels. Fan base is going to need to make some attitude adjustments on how to judge progress.

I see no problem with that. I've historically found the rank and file B & G fan to be level headed, rational, patient, intelligent,....ur courteous, kind, obedient.......

Alvin Walton · 03-17-2015, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

If we go into the season with McCoy, Cousins, and RGIII as our QB's, you might as well pencil us in for 4-12 right now. We already know from experience that you can't win with that group.

You talk like they are the only three guys on the team that can influence a win.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-17-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Fixed it for you

I'd rather have Griffin starting, because he is better, but one of them should be starting and one should not be on the team. Having all 3 is ridiculous to go thru again. It's like a clown car. Colt is a perfect #2.

JoeRedskin · 03-17-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

If we go into the season with McCoy, Cousins, and RGIII as our QB's, you might as well pencil us in for 4-12 right now. We already know from experience that you can't win with that group.

Not sure I agree. Last year was JG's first as a coach, there was no QB coach, and Bill Callahan wasn't here. In addition, the D was - well - terrible. Let's see if the QB play improves with a year in the new system and a dedicated QB coach.

You may be right, the current QB's may be truly limited in their ceilings. If so, we address it next year. On the other hand, patience is a virtue - we simply can fix it all in a year and, at that position, it's important to do it right. Otherwise, we keep recycling crap.

skinsnut · 03-17-2015, 03:00 PM

Makes me wonder if having all 3 makes it easier to trade one away

Chico23231 · 03-17-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsnut

Makes me wonder if having all 3 makes it easier to trade one away

I think that this is the main influence behind this move

Ruhskins · 03-17-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Not sure I agree. Last year was JG's first as a coach, there was no QB coach, and Bill Callahan wasn't here. In addition, the D was - well - terrible. Let's see if the QB play improves with a year in the new system and a dedicated QB coach.

You may be right, the current QB's may be truly limited in their ceilings. If so, we address it next year. On the other hand, patience is a virtue - we simply can fix it all in a year and, at that position, it's important to do it right. Otherwise, we keep recycling crap.

If we focus more on the run, less on the pass, have better special teams play and a defense that can keep games manageable for the offense we can have a decent season. We need to focus less on depending on QB play and more on our other areas.

skinsfan69 · 03-17-2015, 03:24 PM

I don't have a problem w/ Colt coming back. He is what he is. He can come in and win a game or two if needed. Nothing more, nothing less.

They must draft someone after Winston and Mariota. Get a young guy in the mix. They can't go with the same three guys again.

I just think at the end of the day, at some point the owner has to look himself in the mirror and let go of his man crush on Griffin. You tried to hit a home run and swung and missed. He simply has too many flaws. I'd give him training camp and see where he's at. If he's not any better you have to move him.

KC to me is the most capable guy on the roster. Not sure if that's saying much but he moves the offense, gets the wr involved and doesn't take a ton of sacks. I can live with his turnovers as long as there's improvement along the way.

skinsfan69 · 03-17-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If we focus more on the run, less on the pass, have better special teams play and a defense that can keep games manageable for the offense we can have a decent season. We need to focus less on depending on QB play and more on our other areas.

Well it looks like that's what they're doing/did. When Griffin is in there we don't see a pass over 10 yards.

Lotus · 03-17-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

You talk like they are the only three guys on the team that can influence a win.

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that.

Nonetheless, as for QB contributions to wins, we know already what the current QB group offers: nothing. We will once again have one of the worst QB groupings in the league if we stand pat.

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JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins reportedly are not bringing back Colt McCoy I just don't think the QB position is getting "fixed" this year. IMHO - Scot McC is seeing what JG can do with the materials at hand. If he makes progress, he gets another year and maybe a new QB (or maybe the QB position is resolved with the materials at hand). If no progress, despite all the other upgrades, then out goes JG and in comes Scot McC's coach (whomever that may be). Again, no quick fixes but rather patience and seeking a long term solution at all levels. Fan base is going to need to make some attitude adjustments on how to judge progress. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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03-17-2015, 03:24 PM	#58
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: Redskins reportedly are not bringing back Colt McCoy I don't have a problem w/ Colt coming back. He is what he is. He can come in and win a game or two if needed. Nothing more, nothing less. They must draft someone after Winston and Mariota. Get a young guy in the mix. They can't go with the same three guys again. I just think at the end of the day, at some point the owner has to look himself in the mirror and let go of his man crush on Griffin. You tried to hit a home run and swung and missed. He simply has too many flaws. I'd give him training camp and see where he's at. If he's not any better you have to move him. KC to me is the most capable guy on the roster. Not sure if that's saying much but he moves the offense, gets the wr involved and doesn't take a ton of sacks. I can live with his turnovers as long as there's improvement along the way.

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