Skins-Cowboys Post Game Thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Locker room grumbling begins regarding Kirk Cousins | ProFootballTalk

Here we go. Florio, notorious redskins hater, trying to stir the pot with bs

Yep here we go again.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yep here we go again.

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I can definitely see players being upset with his play. Did you see how Garcon reacted after that atrocious int throw?

[Chief X_Phackter]

A game we should have had for sure. Probably three touchdowns that should have been - weren't - plus at least three points we gave up with that end zone INT.

Poor play by KC overall, but for me most of the 'blame' if we have to assign it, goes to the play calling. I haven't looked to see what Jones' average was per carry, but he should have been fed the ball about 15 more times than he was. If there ever was a day to run the ball, today was the day. 1st and goal at the 5 or 6, whatever it was, he should have been given the ball four times if need be...

It only gets harder as we move forward. It's hard to imagine them getting things going on the road after the two clunkers they put on the board at home...but I'm the eternal optimist when it comes to this team, so I can't throw in the towel after week 2.

[sdskinsfan2001]

No NFL team since the 2003 Philadelphia Eagles has started 0-2 with both losses at home and made the playoffs. Not sure how many actual teams this includes but that's not a good stat.

[Meks]

Ok here i go...
Smh



From what i saw


... our.o line is.massively average the turds dont have a great D Line... play calling is so up and down jay and sean could open a.fucking elevator company..

Joe barry needs to.be fired who the fuck cares about the players catching up to.a new.scheme at this point... here... do this when this is called... not that hard...

Matt jones is TRYING guys... from what i saw... hes trying man... kirk is getting nervous. But im not writing him off yet at all.. ye of little faith just wait (i hope) cuz its not all on kirk... ever qb misses throws... some are just more noticeable than others...

Breeland and Co. Have no choice but to keep it in front of them when the opposing qb gets all day to throw (thanks coach barry) our d line sucks. And coming out in the 4-3 look is reallt pissing me the fuck off....

Coaches... wake the fuck up... jesus christ... fire barryimmediately PLEASE.

Other than that... NFL refs are absolute fucking hot stinky fucking garbage. Period.

[sdskinsfan2001]

5 things we need to win more games (4 are controllable this year):

1. Run the ball more (Gruden/McVay it's not that hard)
2. Call more blitzes/aggressive defensive plays (Barry its not that hard)
3. Score touchdowns in the red zone
4. Hit receivers on deep passes especially if they're wide open
5. Get a new C and more talent in the front 7 on defense (Possibly new QB)

[Chief X_Phackter]

As far as the defense, I was fairly pleased. They started out slow and gave up a few plays, but made plays when they needed to. This loss was not on the defense at all. Norman is a beast, as much as I want to believe Breeland will turn it around, they will have to look at moving Norman around the field as they did in the second half. Cravens has to be more involved too.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

As far as the defense, I was fairly pleased. They started out slow and gave up a few plays, but made plays when they needed to. This loss was not on the defense at all. Norman is a beast, as much as I want to believe Breeland will turn it around, they will have to look at moving Norman around the field as they did in the second half. Cravens has to be more involved too.

Made plays when they needed to?! With the game on the line they let the Cowboys drive 80 yds down the field for the win. Talk about coming up small when they were needed. This team isnt going anywhere with a D that made a rookie QB and RB look like All Pros.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

Made plays when they needed to?! With the game on the line they let the Cowboys drive 80 yds down the field for the win. Talk about coming up small when they were needed. This team isnt going anywhere with a D that made a rookie QB and RB look like All Pros.

Yup, im not giving the D a pass, but we know how limited we are with personnel especially in the front 7. But this game was clearly lost on the offensive side of the ball. Settling for fieldgoals in the red zone, turnover in the end zone, and 3 medium-deep range balls missed for scores killed the team. The game plan, play call, and simple in-game strategy offensively has been poor.

For example, Matt Jones TD run drive in the first half was great...he got in a rhythm with the oline and scored. The defense then caused a 3 and out and the very next drive started with Chris Thompson in the back field for all 3 plays which resulted in a 3 and out. Now please fucking tell me why would take Matt Jones out of that sequence? Right after he had gotten going for the first time all year? fuck sean mcvy and gruden

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by irish

Made plays when they needed to?! With the game on the line they let the Cowboys drive 80 yds down the field for the win. Talk about coming up small when they were needed. This team isnt going anywhere with a D that made a rookie QB and RB look like All Pros.

Ok, I'll admit "when they needed to" was probably a stretch. My point is this loss wasn't on the D. That drive is to potentially tie the game if KC hits Doctson in stride (and the game probably isn't close if he hits Crowder and DJax earlier on). The defense made plays, forced fumbles, knocked the ball out of the receivers hands, got 'some' pressure/sacks...this defense isn't going to stop anyone all the time, but it was good enough to win on Sunday if the offense had made more plays.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Ok, I'll admit "when they needed to" was probably a stretch. My point is this loss wasn't on the D. That drive is to potentially tie the game if KC hits Doctson in stride (and the game probably isn't close if he hits Crowder and DJax earlier on). The defense made plays, forced fumbles, knocked the ball out of the receivers hands, got 'some' pressure/sacks...this defense isn't going to stop anyone all the time, but it was good enough to win on Sunday if the offense had made more plays.

Sure they forced a few fumbles and incomplete passess but they gave up 27 points. 7 of which came on an 80 yard game winning drive by the Cowboys.

Could the O have played better and scored more points, absolutely. They aren't blameless in this loss but they did score 23 points which was enough to win in 10 of yesterday's games. The offense was good enough, the D was not.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

Sure they forced a few fumbles and incomplete passess but they gave up 27 points. 7 of which came on an 80 yard game winning drive by the Cowboys.

Could the O have played better and scored more points, absolutely. They aren't blameless in this loss but they did score 23 points which was enough to win in 10 of yesterday's games. The offense was good enough, the D was not.

I strongly disagree on this point. We know our defense has problems and our offense has a lot of weapons. We needed to win this game on offense but our QB, who is a big part of the offense, did not play well. Kirk was the key to winning the game and he blew it.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Sure they forced a few fumbles and incomplete passess but they gave up 27 points. 7 of which came on an 80 yard game winning drive by the Cowboys.

Could the O have played better and scored more points, absolutely. They aren't blameless in this loss but they did score 23 points which was enough to win in 10 of yesterday's games. The offense was good enough, the D was not.

In the micro view of yesterday's game, the blame lays primarily at the feet of Cousins simply because he missed three easy throws for TDs. But I get what you're saying from the long view standpoint.

Cousins and the offense have to be completely on point for this team to win. It was there for him to win the game yesterday, that's why I primarily blame Cousins. But the defense continues to be the unit that's completely non-contributory. There's not enough pass rush, they're not stout enough at the point of attack, the defensive game planning is crap, the inability to adjust is killing us, and aside from Norman there is nobody making exceptional plays consistently enough. The talent level is no better than average overall, and the coaching staff isn't elevating their talent with scheme and planning.

It's a completely dead-weight unit. The way it looks to me, the games we win the rest of the way will have been in spite of our defense, never because of it.

[SolidSnake84]

Not sure if this has been posted already, but here it is:

Redskins players are reportedly complaining about the play of Kirk Cousins - CBSSports.com

It is now only a matter of time before Cousins is sandbagged. They don't want to play with this guy. Once the locker room has turned the season is already over. Willing to bet Cousins and Gruden are not here next year....

[skinsfaninok]

Idk how accurate that report is.. I haven't seen a player quote yet. Kirk is what he is and the team knew this so idk what they would expect. I still believe he'll have a solid season and he's on pace to have the most yards actually so let's see what we can do.. The schedule looked rough but now as u can see, other teams don't look as great as they were predicted. That game was over yesterday if kirk doesn't throw that int but also the refs on that last drive were fucking horrible and it seemed like they were on the Dallas side obviously.. They gave them 2 15 yard penalties one on 3rd and long!! Fuckin joke. No excuses but cmon

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