Should we be drafting Tua???

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Tua will be a monster in the league .. Franchise QB ..Best QB Washington has had maybe forever!! ... hmmm does that sound over the top .. yep but it also sounds exactly like what some are saying about Young.. who is right ?? Maybe nobody however there is NO debate of what the most important position in football is .. QB ! and that’s why we must seriously look at TUA .

I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?


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[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Tua will be a monster in the league .. Franchise QB ..Best QB Washington has had maybe forever!! ... hmmm does that sound over the top .. yep but it also sounds exactly like what some are saying about Young.. who is right ?? Maybe nobody however there is NO debate of what the most important position in football is .. QB ! and that’s why we must seriously look at TUA .

Sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQHpBDzMRzk

[rocnrik]

Exactly!! Good watch!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?


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I think Haskins is a Good Young QB and can be a franchise QB and showed some good growth and will get better but seriously to call him "Elite" after last season ,no .

[ArizonaSkinFan]

The questions on Haskins aren't on talent. Its if these rumors of lack of work ethic and a learning disability are true

If either are true and can't be fixed then we should consider drafting Tua. If these rumors are crap stay the course with Haskins

[MTK]

He doesn’t have a learning disability, Rivera and Kyle Smith both have praised his work ethic in the past week


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[skinsfaninok]

It all boils down to RR and Smith, if they feel that Tua will fir the new scheme / regime better than they need to take him. If they believe in DH, draft Chase.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well said. If the team does not think Haskins is likely to ever be elite, but believes Tua can be, this is a no brainer - you draft Tua.

So far, to me, Haskins seems destined to be a middling QB. Not elite, not bad, but a serviceable starter. You don’t pass up on an elite QB because you have one that’s just OK.


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If Tua didn't have the injury concerns then I would draft him over Young. But if you're the Redskins you probably can't take that chance. But if they did, if they take that huge risk and it panned out it totally changes the franchise. The fans come back, the city returns to being a true Redskins town again. IDK, they have to do their due diligence and someone is going to have a real tough decision to make.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I think Haskins is a Good Young QB and can be a franchise QB and showed some good growth and will get better but seriously to call him "Elite" after last season ,no .

If you actually read my post I never called Haskins elite. What I said was that his last two games had elite numbers. He had a QB rating of 120 and 141 in his last two games.

What I said was that he had a terrible first game, but improved steadily every game. He had two outstanding last two games.

I don’t know if Haskjns will be a franchise QB. But he was getting better every game and that’s all you can expect with an inexperienced rookie. I’m excited to see how he will do in his second season.


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

This is how I feel as well. If Young becomes the next Lawrence Taylor, and Haskins can be as good as Phil Simms...then maybe we have a shot at making it work like Giants did back then. But Kerrigan it seems will still be here, so the cubbard is not bare at DE at all...but there's still a big ? at the most important position on the field and we have a draft pick that can give us a potential upgrade. Just because Haskins looked better towards the end of the season, is certainly no guarantee it will continue...everyone said the same thing about Trubisky after the 2018 season...how do Bears fans feel now?

This... If I had to guess at the very best outcome Haskins is a middle range starter. Will he ever be an elite starter? I would probably say no.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I want Young, he's the best player in this class and typically those guys pan out to be stars. Look at recent years.

Barkley - Stud
Q Nelson - Best OL in football
Myles Garrett - Stud

Draft Chase Young

Nelson and Garrett right now have no chance cause their QB's are not good enough.

[skinsfanmdc]

Theisman is on board with Skipping Tua. That's Casserly, Theisman and others.

https://247sports.com/Article/Redski...orts-144405976

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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This... If I had to guess at the very best outcome Haskins is a middle range starter. Will he ever be an elite starter? I would probably say no.

You don't know what Haskins might develop into. He has the talent to be elite. Haskins is raw. There is a lot of room for growth. He just needs a team and a fan base with the patience to go through some pains. The worse thing for Haskins career was being drafted here.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

Theisman is on board with Skipping Tua. That's Casserly, Theisman and others.

https://247sports.com/Article/Redski...orts-144405976

Totally agree, any other position than QB and Tua's injury history would drop him down the draft board quite a bit. Let alone two ankle surgeries, a hip injury for a young person is rare enough that it should send up major red flags. Also the #2 overall pick in the NFL draft has produced quite a few blue chip defensive players in the course of history.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Warthog

If you actually read my post I never called Haskins elite. What I said was that his last two games had elite numbers. He had a QB rating of 120 and 141 in his last two games.

What I said was that he had a terrible first game, but improved steadily every game. He had two outstanding last two games.

I don’t know if Haskjns will be a franchise QB. But he was getting better every game and that’s all you can expect with an inexperienced rookie. I’m excited to see how he will do in his second season.


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I read it and you used the word twice.in describing Haskins. I like the kid and he has potential but you were wrong to describe him as elite after this year, as for Haskins I'm not saying one bad word about him but no player is elite after two games in his rookie season.


Warthog said.....
"I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?"