Gardner to Panthers

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Yeah Matty, getting a 7th rounder for a former 1st round pick really changes my opinion of the front office. You are sooo right, I should shut my mouth, whatever was I thinking? This is nothing to high five each other about, its a sad day really as a first round pick hits the door for next to nothing. Gardner has real talent and he'll do well in Carolina.

So much "real talent" that after being on the market for about 6 months the best offer the Redskins got was a sixth round pick.

And by implication, does the whole "former 1st round pick" analysis mean that the Ealges have a worse front office than us because they let Fraudie Mitchell go outright and received nothing in return? I'm not sure I see the point there. It's not like where you are drafted is a guarantee that you'll be worth your salt in the NFL. That's like saying Joey Harrington is worth a higher pick in a trade than Tom Brady because Harrington was a former first rounder and Brady was a 7th. Sorry, I just don't see the connection.

[NCSkinfan]

I am amazed that he passed the physical. The Doctors in Carolina must not be paying attention if they didn't realize that his hands are attached at the ends of the wrong arms. Having your left hand at the end of your right arm and vice versa enables one to make amazing catches half of the time and explains why one would drop the ball when it hits one in the hands the rest of the time. Think about it, would you be able to catch a football with the backs of both of your hands? i doubt it...but you could make some amazing grabs when the ball was in some awkward position relative to your body. This condition is medically described as "assbackward manipulitis"

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

So much "real talent" that after being on the market for about 6 months the best offer the Redskins got was a sixth round pick.

And by implication, does the whole "former 1st round pick" analysis mean that the Ealges have a worse front office than us because they let Fraudie Mitchell go outright and received nothing in return? I'm not sure I see the point there. It's not like where you are drafted is a guarantee that you'll be worth your salt in the NFL. That's like saying Joey Harrington is worth a higher pick in a trade than Tom Brady because Harrington was a former first rounder and Brady was a 7th. Sorry, I just don't see the connection.

By the logic of a player being worth more just because he was a first rounder, then that means Heath Shuler was priceless! LOL

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

By the logic of a player being worth more just because he was a first rounder, then that means Heath Shuler was priceless! LOL

[PantherXtreme]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm going to agree with the first part of your statement. I mean Dyson comes in for us and we all expect him to contribute, but how much do we REALLY think he will? I mean at least we aren't saying he is the missing piece to our Super Bowl team.

Because you don't have a missing piece; you have a bunch of PIECES? The Panthers on the other hand are primed for a return; just two seasons removed from the big show.
We practically have the same core players, we were decimated by injuries last year at the beginning of the 2004 which short-circuited our season early but we rebounded late in the end and fell one game short of the playoffs.
This off-season the Panthers FO hasnt basically through FA and the draft filled every weakness we had comming into the season.
This team is more complete on paper than the one that made it the Superbowl in 2003. One of the few question-marks we had after loosing Moose was depth at the WR position.
Which has been answered now with the aquisition of Gardner he also brings a big, physical presence to complement speedster Smith and Colbert we lacked after Moose's departure.
We just need him to be Moose-like no-ones asking him to put up Moose numbers we have Steve Smith back for that. He's just another big target for Jake and another weapon for the Panthers SUPERBOWL run.

Thanks, for another one guys!!!

[That Guy]

brady went in the 6th i believe...

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by PantherXtreme

Because you don't have a missing piece; you have a bunch of PIECES? The Panthers on the other hand are primed for a return; just two seasons removed from the big show.
We practically have the same core players, we were decimated by injuries last year at the beginning of the 2004 which short-circuited our season early but we rebounded late in the end and fell one game short of the playoffs.
This off-season the Panthers FO hasnt basically through FA and the draft filled every weakness we had comming into the season.
This team is more complete on paper than the one that made it the Superbowl in 2003. One of the few question-marks we had after loosing Moose was depth at the WR position.
Which has been answered now with the aquisition of Gardner he also brings a big, physical presence to complement speedster Smith and Colbert we lacked after Moose's departure.
We just need him to be Moose-like no-ones asking him to put up Moose numbers we have Steve Smith back for that. He's just another big target for Jake and another weapon for the Panthers SUPERBOWL run.

Thanks, for another one guys!!!

Don't thank us just yet. If anything thank Steve Spurrier for getting one good year out of Stephen Davis, and having him eat up cap room for the next couple of years. I do think you have an awesome playmaker in Steve Smith and another on Defense with Julius Peppers, but the one thing you dont have is Joe Gibbs. As a matter of fact, the one coach that Fox admires most is Joe Gibbs, (Im quoting SI after you guys went to the SB) but he is not as good as the man himself.

By the way... you shouldn't wander too far, we may have more to discuss after the season... I'm thinking I will be thanking you as your team once again rummages through our discards and tries to make treasure from our trash. Oh and how's that Jessie Armstead thing working out for ya?

[EternalEnigma21]

SUCKERS!!!

[backrow]

Originally Posted by PantherXtreme

The Panthers on the other hand are primed for a return; just two seasons removed from the big show.

Thanks, for another one guys!!!

You are welcome, PantherXtreme!

But what will your reaction be when Mr. 50/50 does his usual thing?

Be thankful that you are only renting his "hands-of-stone" for one year!

[MTK]

What's the saying, one man's trash is another man's treasure?

Let's see if Gardner turns into a treasure... somehow I doubt it but good luck with good old 50/50 Panthers fans!

Just wait til you see how he earned that nickname.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

True... I'm just hoping he wasn't a late bloomer.

[PantherXtreme]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

Don't thank us just yet. If anything thank Steve Spurrier for getting one good year out of Stephen Davis, and having him eat up cap room for the next couple of years. I do think you have an awesome playmaker in Steve Smith and another on Defense with Julius Peppers, but the one thing you dont have is Joe Gibbs. As a matter of fact, the one coach that Fox admires most is Joe Gibbs, (Im quoting SI after you guys went to the SB) but he is not as good as the man himself.

By the way... you shouldn't wander too far, we may have more to discuss after the season... I'm thinking I will be thanking you as your team once again rummages through our discards and tries to make treasure from our trash. Oh and how's that Jessie Armstead thing working out for ya?

I'm pretty sure one of the most admired coaches ever in the NFL was Vince Lombardi, but regaurdless of the fact do you think he would be an effective caoch TODAY; in this salary capped era, modern day athletes, multiple complexed offensive and defensive schemes?

Joe Gibbs was a great coach 80's early 90's era. But the jury is still out how effective of a coach he is new millenium.

In present day coach Fox is one of the best in the bussiness he took over a celler-dwelling franchise and turned it into a Superbowl contender in just 2 short seasons.

And another thing why do you guys call Gardner 50/50 is it because from yaer to year he didnt know what offense he would play in? or what coach he would play for? or what QB he would have from year to year or week to week?
Thats enough to uninspire any player.

I'm pretty sure comming from team Titantic and joining a tight ran ship like Carolina he will produce just find, we have a way of getting the most out of out players just ask Stephen Davis.

And by the way how is that Canidate thing working out?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I seem to remember Davis doing pretty well with the Skins...

LOL

Sorry I couldn't help myself. It's hard to take people seriously who don't really have a storied history of a team. Just like Baltimore... *sigh*

And no matter what QB was throwing to him or what coach was coaching him, at the end of the day, a dropped pass is a dropped pass.

Maybe he can get some of that stuff from The Replacements.

"I look like I just jacked off an elephant!"

[MTK]

Originally Posted by PantherXtreme

I'm pretty sure one of the most admired coaches ever in the NFL was Vince Lombardi, but regaurdless of the fact do you think he would be an effective caoch TODAY; in this salary capped era, modern day athletes, multiple complexed offensive and defensive schemes?

Joe Gibbs was a great coach 80's early 90's era. But the jury is still out how effective of a coach he is new millenium.

In present day coach Fox is one of the best in the bussiness he took over a celler-dwelling franchise and turned it into a Superbowl contender in just 2 short seasons.

And another thing why do you guys call Gardner 50/50 is it because from yaer to year he didnt know what offense he would play in? or what coach he would play for? or what QB he would have from year to year or week to week?
Thats enough to uninspire any player.

I'm pretty sure comming from team Titantic and joining a tight ran ship like Carolina he will produce just find, we have a way of getting the most out of out players just ask Stephen Davis.

And by the way how is that Canidate thing working out?

It's his teammates that came up with the nickname 50/50, Bruce Smith to be specific, and it's because he tends to drop a few here and there. You'll see for yourself before too long.

As for Canidate, who cares?

[PantherXtreme]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I seem to remember Davis doing pretty well with the Skins...

LOL

Sorry I couldn't help myself. It's hard to take people seriously who don't really have a storied history of a team. Just like Baltimore... *sigh*

And no matter what QB was throwing to him or what coach was coaching him, at the end of the day, a dropped pass is a dropped pass.

Maybe he can get some of that stuff from The Replacements.

"I look like I just jacked off an elephant!"

Now do you really think comparing the Redskins and Panthers history is fair?

The Panthers have only been around 10 years or so... The Redskins have been here for decades.

But in the Panthers short brief 10 seasons they have been to 2 NFC championships and 1 Superbowl, In that same time span what have the Redskins done?

"Maybe he can get some of that stuff from the Replacments."

Hmm or maybe he can get a great accurate QB in his prime instead of some washed up vets or sitting duck rookie throwing him the ball!