Dear Mark, I'm sorry...

EternalEnigma21 · 08-17-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

Just because Gibbs has no confidence now does not mean he can't gain confidence in PR over time. By trying to give PR a feeling that the coaching staff has confidence in him will allow PR to relax and play better thereby increasing Gibbs confidence in him. Its a win-win.

Actually to me it seems Gibbs would be putting the season at a bigger risk by not expressing confidence in PR to help him play better and Gibbs understands people too well to make that stupid mistake.

dude... you're really reaching lol.

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EternalEnigma21 · 08-17-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

Just because Gibbs has no confidence now does not mean he can't gain confidence in PR over time.

you're not getting it... this statement, and the basis of your rhetoric, is an oxymoron. Gibbs would already have to have confidence in ramsey in order to even want to build confidence in him. He would have to have confidence that building confidence in Ramsey would make a difference, and that's confidence. Kind of a catch 22 there buddy, you're arguing against yourself, and everyone else that sides with you lol.

MTK · 08-17-2005, 09:43 AM

I give up.

I guess we'll just see how things play out.

firstdown · 08-17-2005, 12:07 PM

I keep hearing people blaming Brunell for taking 43mil and playing poorly. You can blame him for playing poorly but you cannot blame him for the money he received. Thats the fault of our front office. What was brunell to say no he would only except a contract for 12 mil because thats all I'm worth now. I think all of us would take the money even if down deep we knew it was more than we were worth.

EternalEnigma21 · 08-17-2005, 04:13 PM

Hey Irish, take that rubber off your head and maybe some of this shit will sink in...

That Guy · 08-17-2005, 08:52 PM

no need for all the hate

EternalEnigma21 · 08-17-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

no need for all the hate

No No No, no hate intended, merely a stab at the avatar lol. I just dont usually use the smileys or whatever that convey a friendly/ribbing demeanor. Its rare that I will ever say anything hateful to anyone on this site, other than a dallas fan.

Longtimefan · 08-17-2005, 10:36 PM

The thing we must remember about the Gibbs Ramsey relationship that may differ from other comparisions you mention is that before Gibbs conducted his first practice with the Redskins he had established "what he called an open competition" where the QB's were concerned. Ramsey had been considered the starter prior to Gibbs arival, and it would seem to me if Gibbs had the utmost confidence in Ramsey he would have automatically been given the opportunity to maintain his starting position going into the 04 season. Instead, halfway through the pre-season last year it had become clear that Brunell, not Ramsey would start the regular season. Further, I am not of the opinion that Ramsey playing at all last year had anything to do with confidence or lack thereof Gibbs may have had in him. The offence was going so poorly, the fans began to boo,and Gibbs was under pressure to do something in an attempt to get the team going. He had no one else to turn to but Ramsey because at that point in time he felt that move gave him the best opportunity to win. Had he had faith going into the season that PR could get the job done he probably would have been named the starter going into the season, as opposed to some nine games later.

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firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Dear Mark, I'm sorry... I keep hearing people blaming Brunell for taking 43mil and playing poorly. You can blame him for playing poorly but you cannot blame him for the money he received. Thats the fault of our front office. What was brunell to say no he would only except a contract for 12 mil because thats all I'm worth now. I think all of us would take the money even if down deep we knew it was more than we were worth.

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That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Dear Mark, I'm sorry... no need for all the hate

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Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Dear Mark, I'm sorry... The thing we must remember about the Gibbs Ramsey relationship that may differ from other comparisions you mention is that before Gibbs conducted his first practice with the Redskins he had established "what he called an open competition" where the QB's were concerned. Ramsey had been considered the starter prior to Gibbs arival, and it would seem to me if Gibbs had the utmost confidence in Ramsey he would have automatically been given the opportunity to maintain his starting position going into the 04 season. Instead, halfway through the pre-season last year it had become clear that Brunell, not Ramsey would start the regular season. Further, I am not of the opinion that Ramsey playing at all last year had anything to do with confidence or lack thereof Gibbs may have had in him. The offence was going so poorly, the fans began to boo,and Gibbs was under pressure to do something in an attempt to get the team going. He had no one else to turn to but Ramsey because at that point in time he felt that move gave him the best opportunity to win. Had he had faith going into the season that PR could get the job done he probably would have been named the starter going into the season, as opposed to some nine games later.

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