The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

SkinzWiz,

Also the reason it has not panned out is because the team has been going after old aged QB's.

McNabb
Brunell

I'd throw in Grossman and Beck but in reality they are not really aged but they aren't or shouldn't be starting QB's either. Flynn is better then Grossman and Beck. Thats a start. Plus he's still somewhat young and not banged up like McNabb and Brunell were. I'd still take a QB in the draft maybe even RGIII if it still didn't cost too much. Otherwise I'd take someone like Tannehill OR WHOEVER ELSE that fits our system to be developed.

SkinzWiz, lol that's a pretty good one. Maybe I should change my name to that. I agree going after Flynn is not as bad as perpetuating the cycle of aged veterans like McNabb and Brunell. I am just leery of putting our eggs in the Flynn basket. A guy with limited NFL experience who was not highly rated out of college, didn't get drafted high. He is exceeding now because of the system and talent he has around him, which he would not have here.
I can see Flynn being more like Kolb than like Brady. Brady is a once in a decade diamond in the rough.

You can see the physical skill set RGIII has. He has accuracy. He is mobile. I just feel like if we don't trade up for him we are doing nothing more than settling for less than what we could have had at QB and I'm tired of settling. Or "waiting" until next year to get our guy.

[Shadowbyte]

Throw those RG3 dreams out of the window. I knew this would happen. Thanks to Arthur Blank Cleveland is definitely going to land RG3 next year and not the Redskins. Another strike against this hapless regime who hasn't done anything yet to improve our team from where it stood prior to them coming in. This will be the 3rd year in a row where these clowns were unable to land a franchise QB. I know my vitriol is premature but Cleveland has more to offer than we do. I even went to numerous Cleveland Browns forums and their fans are clamoring for him. Not saying the fans will dictate who Holmgren drafts but will most certainly have some degree of influence once the local media pressure kicks in to high gear.

PROJECTED TRADE: Several teams are going to try and move up to get Griffin but the Browns have the most ammo -- the fourth overall pick and a late first-rounder or high picks in later rounds. Cleveland needs Griffin -- and wants him, according to league sources -- and the Rams will still get their man.

Mock Drafts 2012: Richardson could slip to Bengals at No. 17

[SBXVII]

I'm telling you RGIII won't make it to us and there will be a bidding war...

The first Robert Griffin to Browns trade rumor emerges | ProFootballTalk

[SBXVII]

Oh and sorry about the name SkinsWin. My fingers were flying .... in the wrong direction.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Throw those RG3 dreams out of the window. I knew this would happen. Thanks to Arthur Blank Cleveland is definitely going to land RG3 next year and not the Redskins. Another strike against this hapless regime who hasn't done anything yet to improve our team from where it stood prior to them coming in.

PROJECTED TRADE: Several teams are going to try and move up to get Griffin but the Browns have the most ammo -- the fourth overall pick and a late first-rounder or high picks in later rounds. Cleveland needs Griffin -- and wants him, according to league sources -- and the Rams will still get their man.

Mock Drafts 2012: Richardson could slip to Bengals at No. 17

I happen to not believe that we will trade up for Griffin. But what are you getting so worked up over? It's just a rumor you've posted.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

i really want RG3!!! what do you think smoot? stay put or trade back? and who would our first 2 picks be in your opinion and i know its way too early just curious

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I happen to not believe that we will trade up for Griffin. But what are you getting so worked up over? It's just a rumor you've posted.

That's because this regime has proven that they can't get the players they really want and need. 2 years in a row the Shannahan's had to "settle" for the player they drafted. All while I'm seeing other teams making moves to get the player they "want" and "need". Despite his numerous flaws at-least Cerrato was able to get the players he wanted, unlike these clowns who actually thought Grossman was the answer to our most pressing need.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Throw those RG3 dreams out of the window. I knew this would happen. Thanks to Arthur Blank Cleveland is definitely going to land RG3 next year and not the Redskins. Another strike against this hapless regime who hasn't done anything yet to improve our team from where it stood prior to them coming in. This will be the 3rd year in a row where these clowns were unable to land a franchise QB. I know my vitriol is premature but Cleveland has more to offer than we do. I even went to numerous Cleveland Browns forums and their fans are clamoring for him. Not saying the fans will dictate who Holmgren drafts but will most certainly have some degree of influence once the local media pressure kicks in to high gear.

PROJECTED TRADE: Several teams are going to try and move up to get Griffin but the Browns have the most ammo -- the fourth overall pick and a late first-rounder or high picks in later rounds. Cleveland needs Griffin -- and wants him, according to league sources -- and the Rams will still get their man.

Mock Drafts 2012: Richardson could slip to Bengals at No. 17

Uh, yeah. This isn't a scenario that hasn't been realized.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

i really want RG3!!! what do you think smoot? stay put or trade back? and who would our first 2 picks be in your opinion and i know its way too early just curious

You asking me if I think we should trade up for RG3? I'm not really sure, quite honestly. We have the picks to make a move but I'm not sure I see it happening.

It's definitely too early. I think the 2nd pick will be a QB (Foles or Tannehill being the most likely) and that we're going to add a FA QB before the draft (not Grossman, not Flynn either)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

That's because this regime has proven that they can't get the players they really want and need. 2 years in a row the Shannahan's had to "settle" for the player they drafted. All while I'm seeing other teams making moves to get the player they "want" and "need". Despite his numerous flaws at-least Cerrato was able to get the players he wanted, unlike these clowns who actually thought Grossman was the answer to our most pressing need.

What are you talking about? 1.) You really think the Redskins settled Ryan Kerrigan, Roy Helu, Jenkins, Hankeson etc.? 2.) You're acting like the Browns have already traded up for RG3, they might but they haven't yet 3.)If Cerrato got the players he wanted we wouldn't be talking about RG3 because we'd already have our QB in Jay Cutler 4.) Why do people think this FO gave up some big amount to get Rex? He is not and never has been a long term solution

[Shadowbyte]

According to Holmgren a few weeks ago he stated that the Browns will "stay the course, and not blow up what they created". Looks like he's doing exactly what he said he wasn't going to do.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You asking me if I think we should trade up for RG3? I'm not really sure, quite honestly. We have the picks to make a move but I'm not sure I see it happening.

It's definitely too early. I think the 2nd pick will be a QB (Foles or Tannehill being the most likely) and that we're going to add a FA QB before the draft (not Grossman, not Flynn either)

who do we take with our first if we dont move up and take a qb with our second? i think cb or wr

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

who do we take with our first if we dont move up and take a qb with our second? i think cb or wr

CB or OL I'm guessing.

Don't know that we can get Blackmon at 6 or like any other WR in the draft to take as high as 6

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm telling you RGIII won't make it to us and there will be a bidding war...

The first Robert Griffin to Browns trade rumor emerges | ProFootballTalk

Just a rumor for now, let me know when Clayton, Glazer, Mort, or Schefter start saying the same thing.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

that feels like a loss to me and another year of waiting to get a qb. Even if those picks turn out to be good players, we wont get anywhere without a good qb and i personally dont trust Flynn, the man has hardly played at all! We are just wasting what talent we do have on our roster and by the time we get a qb they will be old and need to be replaced. i really think we need to get RG3 or else we will just be floundering once again next season and watching his highlight reels on another team.