F$ck Dallas! Game thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This game was very similar to the one last week against NY. Defense got the offense turnovers and the offense can't do shit except piss all over themselves. Just not one god damn ounce of creativity on offense. I've seen enough from Gruden to know I'm just not impressed with him running an NFL offense, and sure as hell not impressed with him as a play caller. His offense reminds me of Rod Dowhower in 1993.

The Dallas offense was more creative. Let that shit sink in for a minute

[skinsfaninok]

I'm already over it. Like we all said, nobody is any good in the division anyway and 7-9 will most likely win it.

[RedskinJake]

I'm pissed. That was the worst game I've watched this year. If you can't get fired up about playing a division rival, on MNF, late in the year for a chance to make the playoffs, you will never be ready. The defense was a bright spot but the rest of the team might as well just go ahead and start their vacations. Kirk continues to play quality football but that offense was as vanilla as vanilla gets. Sean McVay needs to go. Either it's because the new head coach brings someone in with him or because Gruden fires his friend but the guy isn't ready for the pro game. I can handle watching the Redskins lose, but to come out against the Cowboys looking like you were ready for an afternoon at the mall, killed me. They should've been looking for blood, instead they played like it was a 1 o'clock game against the Jags.. I see good pieces but that was a disgusting performance. Desean screwed us in the end but that should've never even been a close enough game to matter.

[Chico23231]

folks who have very little insight to the game pointing fingers today at Djax

[skinsfaninok]

Djax made a dumb mistake but he made up for it imo. Plus he was trying to spark something and make a play it happens. That's a guy we must keep around. He's had 3 straight games with a td now.

[NoCalHail]

The Redskins have created 6 turnovers in the last two games against division rivals and have 3 points to show for it. That is just pathetic.

[calia]

Watching the game, before the snap, I could accurately predict what the Redskins were going to do at least 80% of the time. At one point, my wife said, "Well, if you know what they're going to do, don't you think that the Dallas defense probably does?" Good point, m'lady. Yeah, I do. This offense is way too predictable.


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[NoCalHail]

One big giveaway right now is that Washington is so depleted at Tight End that they bring in extra lineman on certain runs and it is just a dead giveaway. It is almost comical really, but what else can they do without having enough serviceable tight ends?

[Coff]

Not sure I'm buying into the criticism of the play calling. We've got an o-line with two starters on the IR while one starter is a rookie playing a position he never played before; and TE depth is a mess. Behind all of that is a QB who's basically a fourth round rookie. Last night they played a very strong defense that had ten days to rest and prepare.

Under these conditions, I would expect a conservative game plan, particularly with a tight score, which it was last night. The running game never got going enough to really open things up, and that Lee dude seemed to break up all the screens and bootlegs. So the number one priority of the Redskin offense was to not turn the ball over, which they didn't do. We saw good situational game calling; it just didn't work out. Sometimes you just lose games.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Coff

Not sure I'm buying into the criticism of the play calling. We've got an o-line with two starters on the IR while one starter is a rookie playing a position he never played before; and TE depth is a mess. Behind all of that is a QB who's basically a fourth round rookie. Last night they played a very strong defense that had ten days to rest and prepare.

Under these conditions, I would expect a conservative game plan, particularly with a tight score, which it was last night. The running game never got going enough to really open things up, and that Lee dude seemed to break up all the screens and bootlegs. So the number one priority of the Redskin offense was to not turn the ball over, which they didn't do. We saw good situational game calling; it just didn't work out. Sometimes you just lose games.

Lotta truth in your first paragraph..But knowing we came into the game limited, do you think Gruden and O staff was prepared?

What about A gap middle linebacker blitz with the stunt coming from the DE...why didn't we make adjustments, why didn't Gruden/McVay go up to Kirk and say "Hey, if you see this, you gotta make the adjustment at the line" It doesn't look like we did.

Maranelli really outcoached Jay...I look at the Jets game and the first Giants game where the defense really outcoached the o staff.

[Evilgrin]

Special teams + offense stunk, but really they are more talented then we are. We are screwing up the division by playing above our ability.

[NoCalHail]

Also, Kirk became waaaaay too predictable with his fake hard count. It was almost done in the same rhythm every single time, and you could see Sean Lee starting to time it every snap. This kind of stuff should be recognized and changed through the course of the game.

I didn't hear Greg Hardy's name called too much in the game, Trent Williams did a pretty good job blocking that side. Blocking Hardy mostly one on one is so small feat but Silverback was getting it done.

[FRPLG]

I get the hate on the offense. The performance wasn't good at all but let's be honest with ourselves. This is a team that won 7 games the previous two years. A lot of factors went into that but the main issue on this team has been the level of talent. SM has done an admirable job in just one year of finding players who can contribute (especially on defense) but the talent on the offensive side of the ball last night wasn't there.

We have the makings of a good OL in the future but neither Long nor Leribeus are gonna part of that. Both aren't good. Scherff is good but still learning. He seemed to learn fast last night which is good.

We literally had one tight end active last night. One. And he is the one who can't block. We had to play converted Tackles if we wanted to go with a two tight-end set. Chop that part of the play book out.

KC is not a guy right now who can extend plays and make magic happen. Give him the keys to a good car and he can drive it. Give himt eh keys to a crippled car with dead weight on the interior line, no TEs, and an under performing running game and we're doomed.

The scheming sucked according to many...I don't see how we can scheme much better given the constraints last night. I'm no Gruden apologist but being more aggressive last night probably gets us killed.

As DJax would say "You can't do epic stuff with basic people"

[punch it in]

It is a TEAM sport Raves and gentlemen. How anybody can be talking about anything other than D-Jax is beyond me. Lets just look at what happened again shall we? It was a division game against the Cowboys whose backs were to the wall big time. They came to play. It was an ugly penalty filled game but with about 2 and a half minutes left in said game our D came up big and they punted to us. If D-dick just takes the straight path we are roughly 25 measly freaking yards from attempting a game winning fg. But that asshole RUNS BACKWARDS FOR 23 YARDS AND FUMBLES ON THEIR 7 YARD LINE!!!!!! Eff everything else that happened in that game. It was ours to win UNTIL D-DICK PUT ON HIS D-DICK CAPE AND RUINED IT! That is all.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It is a TEAM sport Raves and gentlemen. How anybody can be talking about anything other than D-Jax is beyond me. Lets just look at what happened again shall we? It was a division game against the Cowboys whose backs were to the wall big time. They came to play. It was an ugly penalty filled game but with about 2 and a half minutes left in said game our D came up big and they punted to us. If D-dick just takes the straight path we are roughly 25 measly freaking yards from attempting a game winning fg. But that asshole RUNS BACKWARDS FOR 23 YARDS AND FUMBLES ON THEIR 7 YARD LINE!!!!!! Eff everything else that happened in that game. It was ours to win UNTIL D-DICK PUT ON HIS D-DICK CAPE AND RUINED IT! That is all.

I think you're being short sighted if that's all your focusing on. We came close to losing a game last week because our offense can't take advantage of good play by our defense. This has been a problem going on all season.

I think we're at the bottom of the league in points scored off turnovers. If the defense gives you three turnovers, two of them in opponent territory, and all you have to show for is 3 points, you're going to lose the game, period.