WFT's Off-Season Thread

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watching games and tape did you feel like it was the year he deserved it ?
For me it was like Di Caprio finally getting an Oscar because he deserved it with previous movies, not necessarily with the one he was awarded it on.

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I feel the same way. When he was out 3 games this year, I didnt notice a drop in play or production. Hes played 13, 11 and 8 games past 3 years.

But very high PFF grade and named All Pro .. ill defer to them vs my eye ball test.

Id rather pay BS vs having a Shawn Lauvau situation though where you had an open freeway to the backfield. You couldnt run a playbook with Shawn in there.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watching games and tape did you feel like it was the year he deserved it ?
For me it was like Di Caprio finally getting an Oscar because he deserved it with previous movies, not necessarily with the one he was awarded it on.

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PFF gave him his highest graded season, and it wasn't even close really

20 - 84.1
19 - 75.2
18 - 72.5
17 - 79.8
16 - 77.2
15 - 74.6

And generally speaking you just don't luck into an all pro selection or get it because the voters are feeling sentimental, eyes that know a lot more than us saw something pretty damn good from him to give him the all pro nod.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Dak Prescott's contract makes Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes' deal look like a bargain

Which deal would you rather have as a player?

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

PFF gave him his highest graded season, and it wasn't even close really



20 - 84.1

19 - 75.2

18 - 72.5

17 - 79.8

16 - 77.2

15 - 74.6



And generally speaking you just don't luck into an all pro selection or get it because the voters are feeling sentimental, eyes that know a lot more than us saw something pretty damn good from him to give him the all pro nod.

I'm not gonna argue that he's very talented, and I'm not saying he was bad this season, but I'd be curious to find Cooley grades cuz IRRC he wasn't praising him as highly as he had before.

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[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...mahomes-21751/

Mahomes contract is complicated. I dont think I understand it.

63M guaranteed at signing .. but a 141M total possibly guaranteed .. ton of guaranteed money is tied to roster bonuses (39M roster bonus per year) but if the Chiefs cut him, he wont get the roster bonus

Feels like the Chiefs could cut Mahomes with little to no dead money in 2026.
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Dak's $ is truly guaranteed, guaranteed at signing with no strings attached.

Mahomes "technically" needs to be on roster to get his guaranteed roster bonuses.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

I don't know about the guaranteed part. All I know from everything I've read is that Dak's is the more favorable deal.

Here's another good breakdown

Dak Prescott awarded record-setting deal: Contract breakdown, cap impact and Cowboys free agency outlook

[Chief X_Phackter]

Definitely a great deal. He was smart in doing what he did, and his agent deserves all the credit in the world.

Hopefully it hinders their ability to improve the rest of the team.

[skinsfan69]

Terrible signing by the Cowboys. Prescott is not worth that kind of cash.

[EdmundDorf]

Dallas cap next year is looking very tight, and that was before they just restructured 3 contracts to save a further $17m this year

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Terrible signing by the Cowboys. Prescott is not worth that kind of cash.

I agree but I can see why they did it too... It's the hardest position in the league to find, and he's a top 10-12 QB. Hard to let him walk

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'm not gonna argue that he's very talented, and I'm not saying he was bad this season, but I'd be curious to find Cooley grades cuz IRRC he wasn't praising him as highly as he had before.

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No disrespect to Cooley but he is also a negative nancy.. It seems like most of the time he has a beef with the skins players and it's odd

[MTK]

QB's get paid (overpaid). We've seen what happens when you have a good one that you don't take care of.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No disrespect to Cooley but he is also a negative nancy.. It seems like most of the time he has a beef with the skins players and it's odd

I could hear he's been unfairly harsh towards Kerrigan, but he absolutely LOVES Scherff !

1nyway, no one's arguing he wasn't our best lineman last season. He was. I just think it wasn't his best season is all am saying.

[MTK]

I think the only position Cooley is little harsh on is TE. He's right about Kerrigan, the guy doesn't have much left and has always been pretty one dimensional as a pass rusher.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

QB's get paid (overpaid). We've seen what happens when you have a good one that you don't take care of.

We have? When?

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