Redskins Free Agents Signings Thread

[KI Skins Fan]

Nice article by Rich Tandler:

Are you wondering why your favorite free agent not signed with the Redskins? Here are five possible reasons.

Money—This is often, but not always, the issue. The team thinks the player is worth X dollars per year. The player and his agent think he’s worth X plus Y dollars. The team might go up a little and the player’s camp might come down a little but ultimately they just can’t come to an agreement. Or, the Redskins called the agent, found out what the opening contract demand were and then didn’t call back. If you’re wondering why a particular player isn’t getting interest from anyone, it’s often a case that he’s pricing himself out of the market.

Length of contract—This is something that could be a hang up in getting a deal done with someone like Anthony Spencer. He might want a one-year deal to have a “prove it” season after he missed almost all of last year with an injury so that if he plays well he can hit free agency again in a year. The Redskins might want him on a two-year deal so that if he does break out they are rewarded with another season of having him under contract.

No interest in the team by the player—Perhaps the free agent you covet doesn’t want to play for the Redskins. It could be that the player wants to stay closer to home. Or he heard about the traffic and the high cost of housing in Northern Virginia. And even the most avid fans would have to admit that the recent history of losing and turmoil on the team could turn off some players.

Not a scheme fit—Your free agent may be ranked in the top 10 on every website you can find but perhaps he doesn’t fit in what the Redskins do. It’s just not a fit at any price if the player’s strengths are not what your scheme emphasizes. The Eagles’ Chip Kelly talked about it this week and the same could apply to the Redskins and most other teams

The player may not want to sign yet—This could apply to a player like Champ Bailey. He is likely to get a one-year deal and even if there is mutual interest (no reports that there are, just an example here) there’s no reason for him to rush and sign a deal. Maybe after minicamps are over, a coach will look at his defensive backs and might think Bailey is worth a little bit more than they thought. A player in Bailey’s situation has nothing to lose and everything to gain by waiting.

If I may be so bold, I'd like to add my own sixth possible reason to the list:

Your favorite free agent sucks - He simply sucks.

[SmootSmack]

Who knew a torn labrum was a sign of weakness

[tc2deuce]

Ryan Clark would be a bandaid till we can draft a safety next draft

[Chief X_Phackter]

So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...

Why not? That's the market rate.

Also, IMO there isn't anything more important to the future of this team than protecting RGIII.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Why not? That's the market rate.

Also, IMO there isn't anything more important to the future of this team than protecting RGIII.

Yeah you are right. I do hope they get a deal done. It would go a long way towards solidifying the O-line.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...

I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less

Buccaneers release OT Donald Penn - CBSSports.com

The Buccaneers jumped back out into the free agent market on Thursday morning and signed tackle Anthony Collins from the Bengals. He'll start at left tackle from the start, as the Buccaneers released tackle Donald Penn later on Thursday.

Penn, who will turn 31 in April, signed with the Bucs as an undrafted free agent in 2007, started 12 games his first year and hasn't missed a start since.

But Penn hasn't always been consistent and he was due a big salary ($6.75 million with an $8.33 million cap hit) in 2014.

I don't know if he can or would transition to the RT willingly, but he was an alternate to the PB in 2011, and number 97 on the NFL top 100 list in 2012.

Chances are very good that he's better than Polumbus.


I love pet college players (I don't know Morgan Moses, so I am now speaking in generalities). If every player that had a fan proclaiming him "the solution" to their team's issues were successful, no one would ever need free agents again!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less

I like Moses, too. But after we use our first pick on a WR, Moses will be long gone.

BTW good players get cut all the time for a variety of reasons.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I like Moses, too. But after we use our first pick on a WR, Moses will be long gone.

BTW good players get cut all the time for a variety of reasons.

good players get cut if: they have huge contracts, or they are injury prone

Penn hasn't missed a game in several years, and his contract about average for a left tackle...... I cannot get excited about the 30th ranked tackle

I hope I am wrong about Penn

[Mechanix544]

Penn might not be worth That much, but somewhere around 8 mil guaranteed and 3.5 - 4.0 per season is definitely worth his services, especially if the play at that position increases even a little bit over Polumbus's arse. Plus, remember, when we sign this guy, and cut Polumbus, we save 2.7 million from cutting him. So actually, for Penn, it would only be counting around 1.2-1.3 million against our current cap room, which is definitely doable, maybe even less depending on how the deal is structured if you factor in Polumbus's deal.


I really hope they get this done. Having two competent tackles is of immense importance, and with Penn, it would be a definite upgrade, no question.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Penn might not be worth That much, but somewhere around 8 mil guaranteed and 3.5 - 4.0 per season is definitely worth his services, especially if the play at that position increases even a little bit over Polumbus's arse. Plus, remember, when we sign this guy, and cut Polumbus, we save 2.7 million from cutting him. So actually, for Penn, it would only be counting around 1.2-1.3 million against our current cap room, which is definitely doable, maybe even less depending on how the deal is structured if you factor in Polumbus's deal.


I really hope they get this done. Having two competent tackles is of immense importance, and with Penn, it would be a definite upgrade, no question.

Good point.

[SmootSmack]

You don't think good players get cut?

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You don't think good players get cut?

not good durable offensive lineman with medium size contracts, you try to renegotiate first

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

not good durable offensive lineman with medium size contracts, you try to renegotiate first

I think he restructured last year to help their cap out.

IMO we absolutely must sign the best RT available.

I went on a bucs board last night

Most thanked penn for his service but welcomed Collins as an upgrade

Some thought he sucked

All loved his nasty streak and being the first buc to defend a teammate

I think pen has been a natural rt playing lt his entire career.

I could see potential hurdles signing him bc he might demand lt money and the raiders might give it to him

Wish we signed streif tbh