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Old 01-19-2014, 04:49 PM   #1
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Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins

Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:03 PM   #2
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Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.
Don't we already know that?

IMO we likely will overpay for Rak, as it will take some elite money to sign him despite the fact that he has not put up elite numbers. But not to sign him creates a large hole which is very difficult to fill.
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Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....
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Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....
He has missed one season.Besides that one injury he has missed two games in his career if I remember correctly. Its like saying Brady is injury prone because he missed one season.
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Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....
Exaggerate much?

He's missed one season in his career.
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I apologize. I thought he hurt his shoulder/pec earlier in the 2011 season. I'm not against re-signing him by any means...just playing devils advocate. I would have fact checked myself before posting, but I was in post nyquil haze after I woke up...
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Don't we already know that?

IMO we likely will overpay for Rak, as it will take some elite money to sign him despite the fact that he has not put up elite numbers. But not to sign him creates a large hole which is very difficult to fill.


Where was that hole during the 7 game win streak when he was out of the lineup?
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:15 PM   #8
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Where was that hole during the 7 game win streak when he was out of the lineup?
Aside from the year he was out in 2012, Rak has averaged about 60 tackles and 10 sacks a year.

Rob Jackson had 37 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games in 2012.

So that's a 23 tackle and 5.5 sack difference. It's relatively easy to find someone who will put up Jackson's 4.5 sacks; it is hard to find someone who will put up 10 sacks. That hole.
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Aside from the year he was out in 2012, Rak has averaged about 60 tackles and 10 sacks a year.

Rob Jackson had 37 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games in 2012.

So that's a 23 tackle and 5.5 sack difference. It's relatively easy to find someone who will put up Jackson's 4.5 sacks; it is hard to find someone who will put up 10 sacks. That hole.
Well Jackson didn't start the entire year in 2012. I'm not saying Jackson is as good. He's not as good a pass rusher, but maybe a combo of Jackon and Jenkins can get the job done vs paying Rak 9 mil a year.
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Not saying Rob Jackson is the answer I named some viable replacements in Michael Johnson and Jason Worilds, who both could be cheaper.

I am saying we should not let Rack and his agent walk all over us because he doesn't have max production at his position IMO.
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I.......REALLY don't want this thing to go Champ Bailey on us.......
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you pay rak. he's here, he's working, you pay him. unless someone offers him a stupid deal like dockery got in buffalo.
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Orakpo stays, no question
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:55 AM   #14
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Are you serious? I'm done with the Orakpo experiment! The team is 3-13 nobody is beyond reproach. If they can use Jackson/Jenkins combo until one proves a starter or use the draft to get a hybrid OLB (due to the combo 4-3, 3-4 that they run) they'll be fine.
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Jay Gruden at the Wizards game
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