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Old 03-17-2014, 02:36 PM   #661
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So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...
Why not? That's the market rate.

Also, IMO there isn't anything more important to the future of this team than protecting RGIII.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:53 PM   #662
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Penn might not be worth That much, but somewhere around 8 mil guaranteed and 3.5 - 4.0 per season is definitely worth his services, especially if the play at that position increases even a little bit over Polumbus's arse. Plus, remember, when we sign this guy, and cut Polumbus, we save 2.7 million from cutting him. So actually, for Penn, it would only be counting around 1.2-1.3 million against our current cap room, which is definitely doable, maybe even less depending on how the deal is structured if you factor in Polumbus's deal.


I really hope they get this done. Having two competent tackles is of immense importance, and with Penn, it would be a definite upgrade, no question.
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Penn might not be worth That much, but somewhere around 8 mil guaranteed and 3.5 - 4.0 per season is definitely worth his services, especially if the play at that position increases even a little bit over Polumbus's arse. Plus, remember, when we sign this guy, and cut Polumbus, we save 2.7 million from cutting him. So actually, for Penn, it would only be counting around 1.2-1.3 million against our current cap room, which is definitely doable, maybe even less depending on how the deal is structured if you factor in Polumbus's deal.


I really hope they get this done. Having two competent tackles is of immense importance, and with Penn, it would be a definite upgrade, no question.
Good point.
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Why not? That's the market rate.

Also, IMO there isn't anything more important to the future of this team than protecting RGIII.
Yeah you are right. I do hope they get a deal done. It would go a long way towards solidifying the O-line.
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So Strief just re-signed with the Saints for $8.5 million guaranteed and a $4.1 million per season average. How does that compare to what Donald Penn will get. I don't see us spending that kinda cash for him...
I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less
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You don't think good players get cut?
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You don't think good players get cut?

not good durable offensive lineman with medium size contracts, you try to renegotiate first
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I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less
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The Buccaneers jumped back out into the free agent market on Thursday morning and signed tackle Anthony Collins from the Bengals. He'll start at left tackle from the start, as the Buccaneers released tackle Donald Penn later on Thursday.

Penn, who will turn 31 in April, signed with the Bucs as an undrafted free agent in 2007, started 12 games his first year and hasn't missed a start since.

But Penn hasn't always been consistent and he was due a big salary ($6.75 million with an $8.33 million cap hit) in 2014.
I don't know if he can or would transition to the RT willingly, but he was an alternate to the PB in 2011, and number 97 on the NFL top 100 list in 2012.

Chances are very good that he's better than Polumbus.


I love pet college players (I don't know Morgan Moses, so I am now speaking in generalities). If every player that had a fan proclaiming him "the solution" to their team's issues were successful, no one would ever need free agents again!
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I agree, why do people think Penn is such a good player ? He may be a slight upgrade, but if he was a good player he would not have been cut.... TB would have tried to renegotiate his contract.

Morgan Moses would probably be an upgrade for $3 million less
I like Moses, too. But after we use our first pick on a WR, Moses will be long gone.

BTW good players get cut all the time for a variety of reasons.
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not good durable offensive lineman with medium size contracts, you try to renegotiate first
I think he restructured last year to help their cap out.

IMO we absolutely must sign the best RT available.

I went on a bucs board last night

Most thanked penn for his service but welcomed Collins as an upgrade

Some thought he sucked

All loved his nasty streak and being the first buc to defend a teammate

I think pen has been a natural rt playing lt his entire career.

I could see potential hurdles signing him bc he might demand lt money and the raiders might give it to him

Wish we signed streif tbh
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I like Moses, too. But after we use our first pick on a WR, Moses will be long gone.

BTW good players get cut all the time for a variety of reasons.

good players get cut if: they have huge contracts, or they are injury prone

Penn hasn't missed a game in several years, and his contract about average for a left tackle...... I cannot get excited about the 30th ranked tackle

I hope I am wrong about Penn
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I can't get excited for another year of Polumbus.
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Re: Redskins Free Agents Signings Thread

Per Rich Tandler Skins working to complete a deal to sign OT Penn.
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good players get cut if: they have huge contracts, or they are injury prone

Penn hasn't missed a game in several years, and his contract about average for a left tackle...... I cannot get excited about the 30th ranked tackle

I hope I am wrong about Penn
In post after post, you quote these rankings, wherever you're getting them from, as if they're the gospel. Wise up! They don't mean jack. On one site he may be ranked 30th, on another he may be ranked 16th. Even if the rankings you reference did mean something, he was ranked based on his play at Left Tackle. We're trying to sign him to play another position - Right Tackle.

Personally, I don't give a tinker's dam where he is ranked in a vacuum by any football geek. All I care about is that he has been evaluated by my team's personnel executives and coaches and they have concluded that he is a good fit for our team at RT.
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All loved his nasty streak and being the first buc to defend a teammate.
I like that very, very much. That is one of the things I admire about Trent.

We could use some more nasty O-Linemen.
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