Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[firstdown]

Its not a good time for me to talk about taxes because I just had to write three big checks to pay federal/State withholding and a penalty check for $238.34 because my last months payment check was two days late. People wonder why I won't vote for Obama because he is going to raise my taxes and I don't care if he says he is not but small business is going to get hit.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by saden1

For security reasons you don't conduct business from your personal email. For intelligent reasons you should not mix business emails with personal emails. For legal reasons government official shouldn't conduct state business outside official communication lines. For a good reasons it should bother you that a government official uses a yahoo account to conduct state business.

If any of is not clear or doesn't make sense I apologist.

You don't think Yahoo maintains better security protocols than Alaska's state IT dept?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

You don't think Yahoo maintains better security protocols than Alaska's state IT dept?

As evident by the hacking I would have to say no, I don't think they maintain better security protocols. Off course it all depends who they hired to manage their IT department. Knowing how Palin operates I would not be supprised if one of her high school friends got the head IT department job because they love "browsing the web."


BTW I don't see how your question is relevant or supportive of your position.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Its not a good time for me to talk about taxes because I just had to write three big checks to pay federal/State withholding and a penalty check for $238.34 because my last months payment check was two days late. People wonder why I won't vote for Obama because he is going to raise my taxes and I don't care if he says he is not but small business is going to get hit.

Perhaps you should take the responsibility of sending Uncle Sam his money more seriously? Next time he just might send IRS agents to break your legs.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I know what you getting at but look up earmarks of the two running and see who wins hands down. OBAMA

I'm not "getting at" anything. I just thought it was an interesting question to ponder.

[dmek25]

i think we all know the reason Gov. Palin uses personal e mails to conduct business. that way the keep outside the frame work of the law. non -disclosure?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by saden1

As evident by the hacking I would have to say no, I don't think they maintain better security protocols. Off course it all depends who they hired to manage their IT department. Knowing how Palin operates I would not be supprised if one of her high school friends got the head IT department job because they love "browsing the web."


BTW I don't see how your question is relevant or supportive of your position.

Just an aside. I'd assume that she was "hacked" by either being a typical sloppy pc user or someone with access to accounts at yahoo gave her up. Regardless, my point is that I couldn't less if she's conducting business using her sexchick69@looseskanks.com so long as her policies are sound and she is actually a "reformer." Those two last points are VERY much up in the air. My concern is that we make mountains out of molehills and ignore actual issues. To me, this is a joke of an issue. It's equivalent to bitching because someone wears jeans to work. It's the work that matters, not the superficial stuff...

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i think we all know the reason Gov. Palin uses personal e mails to conduct business. that way the keep outside the frame work of the law. non -disclosure?

If they found any watergate type stuff going on, then I would 100% agree with you. But there was nothing shady from what I've seen.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Here's a question for you guys:

If Candidate A wants to raise taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frugally, and Candidate B wants to lower taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frivolously, who do you choose?

This isn't the answer you want, but I wouldn't vote for either of these two candidates. Both policies are detrimental to the economy.

'A' sounds like a democrat, and 'B' sounds like a republican -- that's why I vote third party.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Just an aside. I'd assume that she was "hacked" by either being a typical sloppy pc user or someone with access to accounts at yahoo gave her up. Regardless, my point is that I couldn't less if she's conducting business using her sexchick69@looseskanks.com so long as her policies are sound and she is actually a "reformer." Those two last points are VERY much up in the air. My concern is that we make mountains out of molehills and ignore actual issues. To me, this is a joke of an issue. It's equivalent to bitching because someone wears jeans to work. It's the work that matters, not the superficial stuff...

I understand what you're saying but I strongly disagree with prejudice. Realize that you're condoning the circumvention of document retention laws and breaking the law.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Just an aside. I'd assume that she was "hacked" by either being a typical sloppy pc user or someone with access to accounts at yahoo gave her up. Regardless, my point is that I couldn't less if she's conducting business using her sexchick69@looseskanks.com so long as her policies are sound and she is actually a "reformer." Those two last points are VERY much up in the air. My concern is that we make mountains out of molehills and ignore actual issues. To me, this is a joke of an issue. It's equivalent to bitching because someone wears jeans to work. It's the work that matters, not the superficial stuff...

Here's how she was hacked:
Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy | Threat Level from Wired.com

As detailed in the postings, the Palin hack didn't require any real skill. Instead, the hacker simply reset Palin's password using her birthdate, ZIP code and information about where she met her spouse -- the security question on her Yahoo account, which was answered (Wasilla High) by a simple Google search.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Here's how she was hacked:
Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy | Threat Level from Wired.com

That was exactly my point. Typical user. And saden1, I didn't think about doc retention laws. Excellent point.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Foresight in general yes, but more acutely in his area(s) of expertise, much more so. But I don't expect the President to necessarily be an economic guru. My gut reaction to hearing about the bail out was "No effing way, not another one." But, after thinking about the ripple effect such a massive failure would have on the economy, you realize that despite your philosophical objections there really isn't another option. I mean, I watch Man Vs Wild all the time. The guy drinks his own urine in order to survive, but that doesn't mean that he can't bitch about the taste it leaves in his mouth.

That said, I understand McCain's initial reaction because I shared it. I would assume that one of his many advisers briefed him and gave him additional perspective therefore he changed his mind. The principles of "small government" do not condone buying up companies in the manner which we have recently seen. Any person that would be all about backing these big corporations with taxpayer money and not at least voice some apprehension would worry me. Again, nothing I'm saying is an attack on Obama, more of a general defense that no one person is going to automatically know the correct course of action. The willingness to listen and then have an informed opinion is of great benefit and one of the primary qualities I look for in a leader.

And regarding Hooskin's comment about "flip flopping," I thought that was the most ridiculous criticism made during the last election and I have not changed that opinion. The term literally gives me a migraine every time I hear/read it. I see nothing wrong with someone becoming more educated on a subject and changing their mind. I have a real hard time with someone so dedicated to dogma that they refuse to see the forest for the trees.

That, and let's not act as if they are now OWNED by the government. They are going to have to pay the interest on this loan in order to say in business. Granted, the U.S. government had to either grant them a loan to buy them time and get it turned around, or let them file for bankruptcy, but it's not as if the U.S. government is now running the day to day operations of AIG.

Because that would be a total disaster.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by saden1

I understand what you're saying but I strongly disagree with prejudice. Realize that you're condoning the circumvention of document retention laws and breaking the law.

I think I am a "Law and Order" kind of guy, but I think this story is a non-story. If Obama used his government computer to send a personal e-mail, I wouldn't scream "misappropriation of government resources!" In other words.....there's nothing to see here folks, move along.

Why is it that we've reached the point where people jump at the tiniest opening to attack their opponent. "He lied about a BJ!" "She used her yahoo account instead of her alaska.gov account to send an e-mail!" "He said lipstick!" I call BS on all of that phony BS outrage.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I think I am a "Law and Order" kind of guy, but I think this story is a non-story. If Obama used his government computer to send a personal e-mail, I wouldn't scream "misappropriation of government resources!" In other words.....there's nothing to see here folks, move along.

Why is it that we've reached the point where people jump at the tiniest opening to attack their opponent. "He lied about a BJ!" "She used her yahoo account instead of her alaska.gov account to send an e-mail!" "He said lipstick!" I call BS on all of that phony BS outrage.

But SGG, emails exist from the governor's team advising Palin employees to use personal emails so as to avoid the potential for subpoena. This was always about subverting the rule of law and clouding transparency. You don't think this is behavior unbecoming of an elected executive? After the secrecy of the last 8 years you don't think this is kind of a big deal?