Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread

skinsfaninok · 10-31-2010, 05:56 PM

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

SirClintonPortis · 10-31-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

That's a funny typo.

SmootSmack · 10-31-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

Yum!

irish · 10-31-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

I agree, this is an 8-8 team and they are right on-track for that. IMO, its so far so good this season.

SmootSmack · 10-31-2010, 05:58 PM

And what's this we're lucky to be 4-4 crap? Why aren't we unlucky to be 5-3 or 6-2?

SirClintonPortis · 10-31-2010, 06:01 PM

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And what's this we're lucky to be 4-4 crap? Why aren't we unlucky to be 5-3 or 6-2?

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

GusFrerotte · 10-31-2010, 06:01 PM

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

SmootSmack · 10-31-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

Not sure what that has to do about my post about the first 8 games, but I believe we can split with the Giants though it will be very very tough. The Giants are much better than I thought they would be

GusFrerotte · 10-31-2010, 06:06 PM

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U know when I said draft Sam everyone ragged on me.. He has no WR and no Oline and is playing really good so far

Dude, I owe you a big apology about Bradford. I thought he would end up like Leinhart because he went to a powerhouse, with a wicked offensive scheme or he would end up a walking injury. That guy is the real deal and I will cheer for him for sure the rest of the way. I always thought he was a nice guy, just didn't think he would make a good pro, since he came from a stacked team.

Hog1 · 10-31-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

You think it might be a little early to "strike your colors"?

irish · 10-31-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

GusFrerotte · 10-31-2010, 06:10 PM

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Yeah but we could have had our QB for the next decade or so. Anyway, not hating on McNabb. Glad we got him and thrilled we have Trent Williams, but man Bradford is something special

Donovan isn't the problem for sure, the lack of an effective line and only two decent Wrs isn't going to get the job done. Stafford hit all starting Wrs, Donovan only two. Can't win ballgames when your new feature back is only getting a yard per carry(Williams had like 4 ypc).

Bushead · 10-31-2010, 06:10 PM

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This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

I agree. McNabb has made some great plays at key moments. If you think McNabb is getting sacked a lot, Jason would be on his back even more WHILE just checking down way too quick -- at least we have a big play possibility this year.

I'm very upset with Shan, but I'm not going to complain and throw any coach under the bus. I want consistency, and I want him to have his three years to build before I complain.

mooby · 10-31-2010, 06:12 PM

You know, you can change the culture around here, you can instill hope and confidence all you want, but you can't win games if your offensive line can't run block or protect the qb.

Btw that was a bad decision to bench McNabb for Rex at the end of the 4th. I know you're trying to win games and give us a better chance, but 1. Sexy Rexy does not have any timing down with the receivers (I'd love to see the percentage of practice reps he's gotten with the first team from his time of signing up until now), 2. A bad offensive line will kill you no matter who's playing behind it, and 3. Even if he does win the game, you might be planting the seed of doubt in McNabb's head that he would want to sign an extension and finish the year. But that's not to say that'd be a good thing, because his play this season hasn't exactly made us rush to sign him to an extension.

All I know is that there is a lot of questions left to be answered after this upcoming bye week. Shanny benching McNabb isn't the same as Reid benching McNabb, those two had a history together and McNabb probably knew he'd get his job back. Shanny and McNabb have had 8 games together, and are obviously still in the getting to know each other phase.

GusFrerotte · 10-31-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

Yeah I agree, but my point is we are not going to win if Donovan is stuck with this line and to properly rebuild it, you might not see a decent line til 2012 or beyond. By that time Donovan is over the hill or a walking injury due to the lack of protection. Also in the scheme of things if we went 2-6 or 4-4 before the bye, what difference does that make? 4-12 or 8-8 isn't going to get you invited to the big playoff party. THe loss of two picks in 2011 set us back a bit for rebuilding the offensive line.

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,137	Re: Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread And what's this we're lucky to be 4-4 crap? Why aren't we unlucky to be 5-3 or 6-2? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

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mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread You know, you can change the culture around here, you can instill hope and confidence all you want, but you can't win games if your offensive line can't run block or protect the qb. Btw that was a bad decision to bench McNabb for Rex at the end of the 4th. I know you're trying to win games and give us a better chance, but 1. Sexy Rexy does not have any timing down with the receivers (I'd love to see the percentage of practice reps he's gotten with the first team from his time of signing up until now), 2. A bad offensive line will kill you no matter who's playing behind it, and 3. Even if he does win the game, you might be planting the seed of doubt in McNabb's head that he would want to sign an extension and finish the year. But that's not to say that'd be a good thing, because his play this season hasn't exactly made us rush to sign him to an extension. All I know is that there is a lot of questions left to be answered after this upcoming bye week. Shanny benching McNabb isn't the same as Reid benching McNabb, those two had a history together and McNabb probably knew he'd get his job back. Shanny and McNabb have had 8 games together, and are obviously still in the getting to know each other phase. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

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