2013 NFL Draft Prospects

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes. When are you going to grow up?

I am 24 so in the eyes of the law I am already grown up. Anything else??

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Tyrann Mathieu LSU Sophomore Year Highlight [2011] - YouTube

what his highlights/lowlights tape. You see him being pushed around fairly easily by future NFL WRs and non NFL WRs. Plus if you look at Nickell Robey, the USC CB who is small like Mathieu, you'll see he can do a lot of things better than mathieu, particularly in coverage. I'd like to have mathieu, but not till the 3rd at least.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Coming from the guy who said Cam Newton was the "best" QB prospect he had ever seen after his rookie season, so i take that with a grain of salt. .

Dang dude, why you so salty?
BTW lets set facts straight:
I said Cam was the best QB prospect I have ever seen before his rookie season.

(I started feeling that way after the Iron Bowl game. I have never seen a QB carry his team to victory like that, in the SEC no less against a power house pro-style team. One of the best college games I've seen.)

And I stand by that, I mean do you remember Cam's rookie season? Lol, I don't see how pointing my opinions on Cam, an instance where I was clearly right, takes away from my opinions?

By the way I would hate it if that was how our draft went

Then I must be on the right track.

-Cheers!
HTTR

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Dang dude, why you so salty?
BTW lets set facts straight:
I said Cam was the best QB prospect I have ever seen before his rookie season.

(I started feeling that way after the Iron Bowl game. I have never seen a QB carry his team to victory like that, in the SEC no less against a power house pro-style team. One of the best college games I've seen.)

And I stand by that, I mean do you remember Cam's rookie season? Lol, I don't see how pointing my opinions on Cam, an instance where I was clearly right, takes away from my opinions?


Then I must be on the right track.

-Cheers!
HTTR

You stand behind your statement, I stand behind mine. Not salty at all.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

... He trashed my pick of Mathieu in the 2nd or 3rd round by saying it was nuts. Anything else you wanna know???

I didn't intend to 'trash' your willingness to spend a 2nd or 3rd on Mathieu. I just think it would be one hellva reach, and I think reaching in general is a bad idea, and therefore I think reaching 2 maybe 3 rounds crazy.

The idea of the draft is to get the player you want as late as you can.
Not draft the player you want as soon as you can.

Tyrann's evaluation for me comes down to his size or lack there of and speed or lack there of to play outside CB in the NFL. A lot of his playmaking is centered around fumbles forced/recovered but fumble recoveries have an element of randomness that I discount when viewing turnovers. It would be different if Tyrann had a ton of interceptions. His saving grace is his KR/PR ability. Then when you throw in the fact that the dude is a recovering pothead on a team with substance abuse issues. Well, you get the picture of where I am it with Tyrann. I like the kid as an inside CB and PR/KR but there are a bunch of CBs I would take before him like DJ Hayden, Darius Slay, Jordan Poyer, Robert Alford, Blidi-Wreh not to mention I like Richard Crawford more. If I wanted Tyrann I'd take him 5th round, 4th at the earliest.
But you know, Honey Badger...lol, he don't care...

Cheers, bro

[MTK]

I wouldn't go Mathieu in the 2nd, but right around the 3rd or 4th is probably where you start to see the value.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I want him, whether it is 2nd or 3rd round.

I'm with u man, he's a difference maker in the secondary

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I didn't intend to 'trash' your willingness to spend a 2nd or 3rd on Mathieu. I just think it would be one hellva reach, and I think reaching in general is a bad idea, and therefore I think reaching 2 maybe 3 rounds crazy.

The idea of the draft is to get the player you want as late as you can.
Not draft the player you want as soon as you can.

Tyrann's evaluation for me comes down to his size or lack there of and speed or lack there of to play outside CB in the NFL. A lot of his playmaking is centered around fumbles forced/recovered but fumble recoveries have an element of randomness that I discount when viewing turnovers. It would be different if Tyrann had a ton of interceptions. His saving grace is his KR/PR ability. Then when you throw in the fact that the dude is a recovering pothead on a team with substance abuse issues. Well, you get the picture of where I am it with Tyrann. I like the kid as an inside CB and PR/KR but there are a bunch of CBs I would take before him like DJ Hayden, Darius Slay, Jordan Poyer, Robert Alford, Blidi-Wreh not to mention I like Richard Crawford more. If I wanted Tyrann I'd take him 5th round, 4th at the earliest.
But you know, Honey Badger...lol, he don't care...

Cheers, bro

Ur good. I feel he is an Impact playmaker better a round too early than a pick too late

[NYCskinfan82]

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

Looks good, good corner, good olinemen, and a possible steal at receiver. Not sure if the skins will take Barner seeing as how Shanahan does not really draft running backs that are under 200 pounds but you never know.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

I could get with that draft.
Barner *shrugs* he aight I guess there are other backs in that range I prefer

Don't like these 2 picks or prospects:
Kwame Geathers
Conner Vernon

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

I don't like that draft.


I Love it.

The only pick I would change is the Clemson safety. I would get ray ray instead or mcdougald from Kansas at that point. But Vernon is a great pick very good slot WR. Kwame geathers is an NFL sibling, and was a backup at Georgia to 1st rounder John Jenkins. Oh and he is HUGE. Johnathan banks is a great CB, played in the best conference in college football, against future high pick WRs and fared well. He's looked at as a 2nd rounder because he didn't run his forty fast enough. I don't care about that. The tape says he can play.
Duke Williams will be a redskin, it's just a matter of what round. He can hit, he can cover, and he can play multiple positions as a DB. Think of a young Ryan Clark.

[diehardskin2982]

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

Took the words right outta my mouth.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

Just like Vernon Gholston, Maurice Clarett, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Their issues were all mental, too. Where are they now?