Obama Care

[GMScud]

Not a fan of this at all:

IRS lacks clout to enforce mandatory health insurance - USATODAY.com

[joethiesmanfan]

Welcome all conservatives while yall are tying to relive 1776, I will live for the future. Guess hwo is gonna win? We must unite Earth under one government how else will we achieve Star Trek status. I will gladly help set the stage for the future federation of planets and not live with you Ferengi.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well it seem's that ABC is in Obama's corner [/B]and they will not allow any opposing views to [B]his Socialized health care. They are going to hand pick the audience (might as well say hand pick the questions) and it seems Obama is running ABC now as well. Am I living in China or Iran?
Critics Attack ABC News for Refusing to Air Opposing Ads During Obama's Health Care Special - Political News - FOXNews.com

pretty sure you might be living on Pluto.

i'm not reading this thread.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

pretty sure you might be living on Pluto.

i'm not reading this thread.

So you really went back to a post I made a year ago about ABC giving Obama a avenue to present his health care bill without a voice from the opposition. You know you can do a search online in about 30 sec. and see that was correct.

ABC promises Republicans health care coverage won't be Obama 'infomercial'

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So you really went back to a post I made a year ago about ABC giving Obama a avenue to present his health care bill without a voice from the opposition. You know you can do a search online in about 30 sec. and see that was correct.

ABC promises Republicans health care coverage won't be Obama 'infomercial'

actually, dont flatter yourself, i was just scrolling down thru the forum and saw it.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

actually, dont flatter yourself, i was just scrolling down thru the forum and saw it.

You say I must be from Pluto but your starting to sound like Goffy.

[CRedskinsRule]

Rainy,

If you are gonna read through this thread, you may need Obama Care by the end

[mredskins]

Plus this is kind of our official unofficial health care thread the ABC portion of it got lost about 77 pages ago.

[MTK]

Kinda helps if you can at least spell Goofy

[724Skinsfan]

My firstdown-spelling-filter must be working because I missed that.

[firstdown]

HMMM, European nations having big financial problems because of social programs. I thought the left said they had the right programs and we should base our system off of theirs.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

HMMM, European nations having big financial problems because of social programs. I thought the left said they had the right programs and we should base our system off of theirs.

Difference is..... in Europe they don't work. They don't have 40 hour weeks they don't believe in that. Europe's problems can easily be solved. Tell them folks to get a job. Greece, 11 million people need 152 billion bailout? Saw a Greek american millionaire on fox business channel. He said the Greek economy is based olive oil, cheese and tourism. WTF? No property taxes in Greece, how can you raise revenue and pay for your belief of not working? This is caused by "no taxes" sound familliar. "no taxes" is supposed to psur economic growth right? Wrong it takes away the incentive to over achieve.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Difference is..... in Europe they don't work. They don't have 40 hour weeks they don't believe in that. Europe's problems can easily be solved. Tell them folks to get a job. Greece, 11 million people need 152 billion bailout? Saw a Greek american millionaire on fox business channel. He said the Greek economy is based olive oil, cheese and tourism. WTF? No property taxes in Greece, how can you raise revenue and pay for your belief of not working? This is caused by "no taxes" sound familliar. "no taxes" is supposed to psur economic growth right? Wrong it takes away the incentive to over achieve.

Hello, property taxes is a state issue not a federal. The income tax in Greece is from 15 to 40 % so I don't know how you come up saying they pay no taxes. What you said in bold. No its not no taxes that take away the incentive to work. Its the social programes that they receive that allows them to be lazy and sit on their ass. If they did not have those social programs the people would have to work to provide for their families. Also all those riots over there is union works ticked at the cut backs in goverment programs.

I thought I'd check what you said about property taxes and over 25% of the people in Greece do pay property taxes.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Hello, property taxes is a state issue not a federal. The income tax in Greece is from 15 to 40 % so I don't know how you come up saying they pay no taxes. What you said in bold. No its not no taxes that take away the incentive to work. Its the social programes that they receive that allows them to be lazy and sit on their ass. If they did not have those social programs the people would have to work to provide for their families. Also all those riots over there is union works ticked at the cut backs in goverment programs.

I am going by what the guy said on Fox Business he owns property in Greece. He is of the Greek ethnic group in the US. The point is stop comparing America to Europe we have nothing in common. You have to make over 100,000 a year to pay taxes research please.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I am going by what the guy said on Fox Business he owns property in Greece. He is of the Greek ethnic group in the US. The point is stop comparing America to Europe we have nothing in common. You have to make over 100,000 a year to pay taxes research please.

The tax scale starts at 10,501 Euro at 15% and they just started paying property taxes a few years back. I believe that it starts for people who own more then 25,000 US dollars in property value.
Greece Tax Laws Tax System Greece. - WorldWide-Tax.com

You guys found alot for us to have in common with Europe and Canada when pointing out their helth care system but now we should not look at what is happening over there. By the way Canada is also having the same issues.